Breaking The Silence On Suicide

 *This episode includes open and honest discussion about suicide, suicide loss, and mental health struggles. We talk about lived experiences, prevention myths, language that reduces stigma, and ways to seek help when safety is at risk. If these topics are difficult or activating for you, please listen with care. You may want to pause, step away, or skip this episode entirely if it feels overwhelming. Your wellbeing matters, and it’s okay to take the space you need. *

Silence can feel polite, but around suicide it can be deadly. I sit down with Kelly Poelker, the heart behind Glow for Hope, to talk about what happens when we stop whispering about mental health and start building real community around it. Kelly shares how personal loss shaped her mission, and why creating spaces where people feel safe enough to speak can be the first step toward saving a life. 

We dig into what Glow for Hope actually does, from glow-in-the-dark events like Spike Out Suicide to community tables where a single brochure and a simple question can lead to a breakthrough conversation. Kelly explains the organization’s pillars, how fun and connection can coexist with grief, and why lived experience matters alongside clinical expertise. We also tackle common suicide prevention myths, including the fear that asking about suicide “puts the idea” in someone’s head, and why the words we choose like “died by suicide” can reduce stigma and make room for healing. 

If you’re a parent, we talk about modelling emotional regulation, starting coping skills early, and learning to listen without rushing to fix. If you’re struggling yourself, we name clear starting points for help, including the 988 Suicide and Crisis Lifeline (call or text), trusted people in your life, and emergency options when safety is at risk. Subscribe, share this with someone you care about, and leave a review so more listeners can find these conversations that can truly change outcomes.

Transcript

Welcome And A Hard Topic

SPEAKER_01 0:00

This is the Kindness Matters Podcast, a place for stories that inspire, challenge, and bring us a little closer together. If you've been looking for a reminder of the good in people, you're in the right place. Because kindness matters, and so do you. Hey, hello, and welcome everybody to the show. I am your host, Mike Rathman, and this is the Kindness Matters Podcast. Uh, thank you so much for listening. I I know that each of us only has so many hours in a day, and and the mere fact that you took part of your hour, one of your hours, to listen to this podcast. Um I appreciate it. I love it, and I thank you for being a part of the kindness journey we got going on here. Um, today's guest is fantastic. I could just end there, but I won't. Uh Kelly Pelker is the heart behind Glow for Hope, uh a movement born from personal loss and fueled by a mission to bring light into some of life's darkest moments. Through storytelling, advocacy, and community, she's helping families feel seen, supported, and never alone. Welcome to the show, Kelly.

SPEAKER_00 1:30

Thank you, Mike, for having me.

SPEAKER_01 1:33

Ah, it is my pleasure for sure. Uh, do we need a trigger warning on this episode, do you think? Um it is kind of a hard topic, right?

SPEAKER_00 1:45

It is. Um, it is. I don't know what you're gonna title it, but you know, I'm from my perspective, everybody should be talking about it. So that's a hard one for me to answer.

SPEAKER_01 1:57

You're absolutely right. That you're you're absolutely right. Um, but in the end, even though this is a hard conversation to have, it's also a hopeful conversation, right?

SPEAKER_00 2:10

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 2:10

And that's what we're here for, and and so yeah, there we go. But when it comes down to it, and and so basically what we're talking about here, and I should probably let you go from here, is is suicide, suicide awareness, and using community to battle that. Is that correct? Do you is that a nice summation of what we're gonna talk about here?

SPEAKER_02 2:42

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 2:43

Okay.

Kelly’s Why And Personal Loss

SPEAKER_01 2:44

Um so let's start this off. What is Kelly's why for Glow for Hope?

SPEAKER_00 2:56

Um, you know, it's it's kind of multifaceted, I guess. Um you know, and in thinking about the understanding when to push for conversations and give space to people for for mental health crises. And um, you know, as we kind of delve further into our mission and and engage in discussions about who we were and who we wanted to serve and and the resources that we provide, it became clear that it wasn't like my original mission and purpose was more parents and caregiver, caregivers like myself, to have the needed support. Um, but then it you know it it didn't take long to obviously recognize that children and young adults require the same direct assistance to manage their mental health, the more that we can do that in the early stages of life, the less troublesome life may feel later on in life. Um, it's and it while it sounds cliche and everybody's saying it now that, you know, it it it's okay not to be okay. Um, but it it's also okay to talk about not being okay.

SPEAKER_01 4:11

And I um it's yeah, that's an important distinction, isn't it?

SPEAKER_00 4:17

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 4:17

Because everybody says it's okay to not be okay, but I don't want to hear about it, right?

SPEAKER_00 4:24

Yes. I you have you have to give the platform to to open up and be be willing to listen at the times when somebody needs you, or at least acknowledge that you know, sometimes we get busy and it's like, okay, I I really want to talk to you right now, but I need to finish what I'm doing and and then I can reconvene with you, or I can help get you to somebody else who can help you.

SPEAKER_01 4:50

Right. So why why is glow for hope here? What happened that that made you feel the need to create it?

SPEAKER_00 5:04

Um I have unfortunately lost many in my life to suicide. And I start my nephew took his life, and after that we uh started going to the out-of-the-darkness walk for that the AFSP puts on throughout the country. And uh they give you a button that you can write the names on of people that you're walking for today. Um my list became too long. And that coupled with um, you know, my my children who each struggle with their own mental health issues. And um I I just I know that I didn't do everything right, and not all parents will. I'm not alone in that. I know that. Um but if I could put forth some tools and resources and a and a space for for people to come together and and talk about it, um then I really just kind of put it all behind me that okay, I I I gotta quit talking about it and I need to do it. I talked about doing it for two years and and finally took a step to to make it happen.

SPEAKER_01 6:18

Yeah, because I think it it probably it could have been easy for you to just like shrink inside yourself, right? And and to say, this happened, it's horrible, but there's nothing I can do about it. I and I could see where some people might do that, but you chose to to use your voice.

SPEAKER_00 6:38

I did. And and not so much my voice, I would say, but just to to have a a place where people could go and figure out maybe some some different things. And even, you know, I'm I'm still learning as I go. I don't know everything there's to know about this. I'm not a therapist, I'm I'm not a mental health professional. I'm a parent, I'm uh an aunt, a sister, a cousin, a best friend. Um just like so many out there that at least someone.

SPEAKER_02 7:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 7:16

But it it's that lived experience and the things that I can find out, or that you know, that the people that I talk to and the people that make up our board who have all had lived experience and including a suicide attempt survivor. And um, so it's it's not all the clinical stuff, but sometimes you need to hear things from the people that have lived it.

SPEAKER_01 7:43

Yeah. And and really it's all about the human connection, isn't it?

SPEAKER_00 7:53

Yeah. It is from a very early age and and learning how to how to manage your emotions and and coping skills and and techniques. And we we have to, you know, we as parents, we have to our kids are watching. We hear that all the time, you know, you're you're you're a model. And so, you know, it's okay to to step back and say, you know, hey, I need a minute before I can deal with this situation right now, and model through your own behaviors how you react to things, and and then your kids start to pick up on that.

SPEAKER_01 8:32

Yeah, absolutely. I I know, and you were talking about you not being perfect. I don't know of any parent that is perfect. At least I I I think we can every single one of us as parents could either could have, my kids are in their 30s now, so um, but can do a better job uh of talking to our kids, letting them know, you know, it's okay, and if you need somebody, I'm here, right? And maybe I can't be here right exactly the second that you need me, but I am here and I care and I live I will listen, right?

SPEAKER_00 9:20

Yeah, and I you know, it it part of my journey has been uh to actually embrace the role of listening and and that really listening, active listening is is what it's referred to. I I'm a fixer by nature. I've always, you know, I want to be the solution finder and and fix everything. And of course that's and that's magnified then when it's your kid and and you just want to make make things better for them. And so on this journey, it's it's been an eye-opener for me in actually listening to my kids. Give my kids give me the feedback on, hey, you know what, mom, if you would just stop and listen to me, let me be in my feelings and and have them quit throwing questions at me, quit throwing solutions at me, then things can be a little bit different.

SPEAKER_01 10:12

Yeah, for sure. I I'm I'm right there with you, though. I'm guilty of that as well. So talk to me for a little bit about

How Glow For Hope Began

SPEAKER_01 10:22

um glow for hope and and why glow for hope.

SPEAKER_00 10:30

Uh well, it actually came from we what the first event that we had, which was just the reason that Glow for Hope was even born, or it became a result of it, was we um I mentioned we went to the out of the darkness walks, and the AFSP has these things called the honor beats. Um we go to the one in Louisville because our our my daughter lives in Louisville, and one of our visits there, we happened to catch a glow in the dark volleyball tournament at a local facility. And I was like, well, wouldn't that be cool if we brought a glow-in-the-dark tournament and then we replicated those honor beads with glow sticks, glow necklaces. And so we kind of adopted the honor bead colors, which there's different colors, and each of those colors signifies your connection to suicide. So that you can really, without even saying anything as you're going on these walks, people can recognize from the the color of your beads what your connection is.

SPEAKER_01 11:34

And so we kind of adopted that for one color for a survivor, one color for a family member.

SPEAKER_00 11:41

Right. Lots of a sibling, loss of a parent or a spouse. Uh blue is just kind of universal. You support suicide prevention in in general. Um so we kind of adopted those, put this suicide or glow in the dark spike out suicide volleyball tournament together. And the tagline that we came up with for that was bump set glow for hope. And that's what when glow for hope was born.

SPEAKER_01 12:11

Love it.

SPEAKER_00 12:12

But it was kind of like, okay, do we start this or not? It was, you know, a collective of there's so much more that we can do than just throw a volleyball tournament here and give, you know, I mean, that that's great. And it it's a fun way for people to come together around a good cause. And it it's amazing the number of people that open up just because they're in that kind of a space where it's okay to say, you know, they they come up and they're like, I've never really told anybody this before, but I struggle.

SPEAKER_02 12:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 12:42

And or this is my story, or I lost my brother, I lost my, you know, cousin, anybody. And so it it does really just give that safe space in a fun, fun way, fun atmosphere. Everything around this, while it's a very sad, um, sad subject, it doesn't have to be a somber event.

SPEAKER_01 13:07

Right, right. Um so now you mentioned a volleyball tournament. Is that is that the spike out suicide?

SPEAKER_00 13:18

Yes, spike out suicide. We do that a couple times a year, once in May for Mental Health Awareness Month, and once in September for Suicide Prevention Month. And though, and we do other events too. We have uh uh Hot Rods for Hope, which is a car glow. And we we line the streets of of our town here, and the cars, classic cars, motorcycles, slingshots, everything comes together, and they all glow up their cars in the in the evening, and we have a band, and um we do a brightest glow award. Um so we we've done that. We do a raise of glass to hope celebrity bartending events and just other we participate in other local community events as well, and just bring literature and um just get out in the community and just trying to get people to talk.

SPEAKER_01 14:16

Yeah, because that's and that's the whole purpose, right? I mean, you can have these fun events, but it inspires people to A, get together and B to talk, right?

SPEAKER_02 14:26

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 14:27

When we were talking online and offline before the episode, you

Events That Create Safe Conversations

SPEAKER_01 14:33

talked about the three pillars. Can you tell me some more about that and tell our audience about that? Because I thought those were really cool.

SPEAKER_00 14:43

Um, sure. I the the the basis for the organization is just basically, you know, to spark conversation, create community, and ignite hope. And and that's our mission around all of it. It falls in with our values to be approachable, connected, and inspiring. And that's what we're all about. And that's we try to tie that into everything that we do.

SPEAKER_02 15:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 15:09

Yeah. Well, and those are great pillars to build on, right? Um why do you suppose this is a it sounds like a stupid question, but I think it invites a better conversation. Why do people avoid suicide conversations? And I I mean, again, it sounds like a stupid conversation It's not a stupid question. Not at all. And how does Glow for Hope gently break that barrier?

SPEAKER_00 15:43

Um it it's trying to make people understand that just because you talk about suicide or you ask the question of someone that it it it's kind of a myth that it sparks suicide and and makes people take action, and and that's really not true. It opens the door to conversation rather than put it it doesn't plant the seed in somebody's head. It opens the door to talk about it.

SPEAKER_01 16:18

So that that's a myth that if you talk about suicide, somebody will be will hear that and go, oh, I'm going to or you know, make an attempt or or consider it or what have you.

SPEAKER_02 16:29

Mm-hmm. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 16:33

I think I fell into that myth. I think I believed that. That's good to know. So do you have any stories about attendees who kind of opened up when you had these conversations?

SPEAKER_00 16:47

Um, yeah, we have we have several, which is great. Which is which is great. Uh you know, we we get asked a lot. It's like, you know, we go and sit at these events for hours upon hours, and people, you know, they'll see literature on the table that says suicide and just kind of, you know, walk away or turn turn the other direction. And then you get the one person that's comes up and just starts to open up, and it's like, you know, right we had that happen at one of the uh when we were just exhibiting at a we had a table at one of our local baseball games, and had a gentleman, young guy that was, you know, he just kept walking back and forth. And finally he stopped. We handed him a brochure and a and a glow necklace, and um, and then he was just like, you know, I I wasn't gonna come tonight. And I decided to, and I've come to the realization now that it was because I I was gonna run into you. And he shared his story with us and was very glad that um that he had made the decision to come. Um on a similar note, we had um at one of our car glows, a young guy that he he had just got off work and was walking to his car, decided to turn back and came to our tent and found out what we were all about. And then he started to share with us his story about his brother had died by suicide, and he couldn't talk to his mom because his mom was so upset about things. And so he didn't really have anybody to talk to. He didn't want to burden his mom. And he just kind of unloaded on us, and he was like, There's a reason, you know, that I turned around and and came back here because I needed to find you guys. And of course, we're like, we were all like, can we just give you a hug?

SPEAKER_01 18:51

Sure, that would be the yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 18:54

Yeah, so it's oh wow, it's um it's very moving and and it it kind of validates the purpose of of why we do go out and do what we do. And even if it's you know, one in fifty people that that have that real connection, um, it it makes it all worthwhile. All you need to do it's very rare to find somebody that doesn't have a connection to someone that they've lost by suicide.

SPEAKER_01 19:27

Yeah, yeah, for sure. Um yeah, all you have to do is you you need to reach that one person that needs to hear that message, right? And so

Myths And Barriers To Talking

SPEAKER_01 19:42

earlier you were talking and and you mentioned it, I guess almost it kind of in passing about reaching kids early. Um and I think I am under the general assumption, and I think maybe some of my some of our listeners are, that middle school is kind of where it all starts happening and you start reaching out. But you you believe that middle school is too late to start talking about that kind of stuff.

SPEAKER_00 20:11

I mean, any point in time is the right time, as long as you're reaching them and and teaching them, you know, those resilien the resilience and the mental toughness and the and the coping skills and and how to how to manage their their emotions. Um but it's it starts a a lot younger than that. Um That's horrible. Yeah, I mean, th there are there are reports of of deaths by suicide for as young as, you know, nine, ten years old. It's like how can how can kids even have that in their mind? Yeah. Jine blowing to that's probably a wrong choice of words there. But um it it's just it's unfathomable. And so it it's kind of taking that um I think it it it's hard to like maybe approach schools because you want to respect parents who don't necessarily want to have their kids exposed to it. So okay, that's when that's when you can come in and just teach them the skills on how to deal with their emotions. And you know, when they get angry, what are they supposed to do? And what are their different emotions to begin with? And so I so just at any any age, the earlier the better that we can start forming, shaping those things and and their minds. Yeah, I mean, we're born into this world, we don't know anything. We know absolutely nothing. So we learn those behaviors from society and in our home environments and and all of that. So we have to start, we have to shape those young minds in. To believing in themselves. And it's okay to get angry, but we don't have to stay in anger. And we don't have to lash out in anger. Um, it's okay to be sad, but we don't need to stay sad. And what, you know, what can I when you are feeling sad, what are some things that you can do? You can listen to music that's uplifting, you can um color, you can tear up a piece of paper, you know, it's there are all kinds of different coping mechanisms that you can learn. Um, and also when, you know, when it gets to be too much, and a parent just doesn't really know how to manage what their kid's going through, it's okay to see a therapist.

SPEAKER_02 22:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:48

There's nothing wrong with that. And it'd start with your pediatrician. They can make recommendations. Um but it there's nothing wrong at all with going to see a therapist. And there are different types of therapists. We we have an episode on our podcast that um that kind of breaks down what all the different, you know, there's therapists and counselors and psychiatrists and psychologists, and that episode kind of explains what the different ones do. There's art therapists, there's music therapists, there's all kinds of different different avenues to learn cognitive behavioral therapy and and skills.

SPEAKER_02 23:34

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:36

Yes, yes, all of that, yes. So if for the parents that are listening right now who maybe have not necessarily talked about these kind of things with their kids, what are some things that they can do right now to for modeling emotional behavior, for example? Because kids are they learn by watching, right? And you said that earlier, too. Right. So what can we do as parents? Or did we just pretty much go over that? We kind of covered that.

SPEAKER_00 24:17

I think we we pretty much covered it. It just you know, to just kind of model like, okay, if if if you're if you're panicked at a moment, or you know, you you don't really know how to handle a situation, step back and and be open with your kid. It doesn't show weakness, which is and something that I always thought, you know, I'm the parent, I have to take this upper position, and I don't, you know, I I don't need my kid thinking that they can manipulate my behavior by the way that they're acting. So it it works out a lot better if you can your your kids can tell you how you can interact with them. I'm not saying that that's the case every single time.

SPEAKER_01 25:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:04

But you know, especially as they get older and and you and into the teen years, and it's like they're allowed to have these feelings, they're allowed to be mad, they're allowed to say, okay, I can't say anything to you right now because it's gonna come out in in a fit of rage or anger, and and then we just keep pushing them as parents. And so it it's you know, you've got to find that that balance and the right communication that works for you and your family dynamic. And sometimes you might need the intervention with the therapist in order to figure out what that is. And we are developing um an online resource hub for we're starting off with parents because we're just about to release uh next month a parent guide on navigating navigating life with uh with a child with mental health challenges. And then um, and that'll be accompanied by an online resource hub as well.

Reaching Kids Early With Skills

SPEAKER_00 26:08

Um so keep keep watch on our website, follow us on Facebook to when those things come out. Um but just be, you know, some some different things. And there's conversation starter cards that we're working on. It um, you know, if you if you're worried about them, or if you if you're trying to approach, you know, this subject, it's very hard. If you think your child is harming themselves, or um, you know, certain things that you can say, what to say, what not to say, and because it can make a difference. Because you don't want to trigger, which can happen. And we just it's not intentional by any means. We just don't always know what we don't know.

SPEAKER_01 26:47

Exactly. So let's let's talk about the stigma um and how glow for help helps to break that stigma. Um we talked about language matters. And and can you talk a little bit about that? Um because there are a lot of myths. And we we we talked about some of them, you know, talking about it, but um for example die by suicide versus committed suicide.

SPEAKER_00 27:27

Right.

SPEAKER_01 27:28

Which one's the wrong one there?

SPEAKER_00 27:32

The preference would be to change it to die by suicide and not committed suicide. Kid it it's not a crime to die.

unknown 27:42

Right.

SPEAKER_00 27:43

You know, and and just you know, you think about it, it's you wouldn't say that somebody committed cancer. They died from cancer.

SPEAKER_01 27:50

Right.

SPEAKER_00 27:51

Um, you know, just like mental health is very much the same as physical health. You would go to a doctor for a broken arm, so go to a doctor for your mental health.

SPEAKER_01 28:01

Right. Right, for sure. Um why do we think Okay, again, sounds like a stupid question. There are more this is where you chime in and go, There are no stupid questions, Mike.

SPEAKER_00 28:17

There there are none. Ask away. Um without prefacing, that's all good.

SPEAKER_01 28:24

Why is silence more dangerous than discomfort?

SPEAKER_00 28:30

Because it costs lives.

SPEAKER_02 28:33

Plain and simple. It costs lives.

SPEAKER_01 28:37

Yeah, staying silent really does, doesn't it?

SPEAKER_02 28:40

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 28:42

Yep. Very much. It it silence doesn't protect the people from suicide. It protects the people from having to talk about it. And those are very different things.

SPEAKER_01 28:55

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 28:56

Yeah, I w when when we say they committed suicide, we're making a judgment on what they did. And when we say died by, we we make space for grief to happen.

SPEAKER_01 29:12

That's important. So if you had some speaking strictly to my listeners right now, what would you say to somebody who is struggling?

SPEAKER_00 29:34

Um to get help. I first off, if if you feel like you're on the verge of harming yourself, call 911, find a trusted adult, go to the nearest emergency room. If you just need someone to talk to and feel that you can't talk to anyone around you, then there are a multitude of resources available, such as you know, you can call or or text Hope to 988, which is a suicide crisis line. Yeah. Um it's that's their man 24-7. If you don't want to talk to somebody, then you can text. Okay. And and just be there for for you.

SPEAKER_01 30:23

Yeah, for sure. Um, how about what would you say to a parent who's worried or maybe suspects but doesn't want to ask? You're gonna say ask, aren't you?

SPEAKER_00 30:35

Yes, I am. I'm gonna say ask. You know, it it's hard, but it's better to to ask than not ask.

SPEAKER_01 30:45

Yeah. Do you find that that people say to you, I did not see this coming?

SPEAKER_00 30:55

All the time. And it it and there's no fault in that.

SPEAKER_01 30:58

I would imagine.

SPEAKER_00 31:00

There's no fault in that. It it's gonna happen a lot because you know it it's not typically one thing that triggers someone to take action to take their life. It's a culmination of things. And, you know, it's it's demons inside. They don't think about things the the way that you or I might think about them. Um, and they just feel that the world is gonna be so much better off without them, which we all know is simply not true.

SPEAKER_02 31:29

Right.

SPEAKER_00 31:30

But it's their belief, it's their feeling, and and you have to to get to the to the reasons of why they're feeling that way and what we can do to fix that and and give them hope for the future. Um it's um it's a slippery slope.

SPEAKER_01 31:55

And I think we might have already covered this, but what would you say to a listener who just maybe wants to get help but doesn't know where to start? And obviously nine eight eight is a good resource.

SPEAKER_00 32:09

988, uh, your primary care physician, a trusted friend. I you know, uh believe me when I say that if you tell them you're struggling they're not going to un unfriend

Language That Reduces Stigma

SPEAKER_00 32:26

you.

SPEAKER_02 32:27

Right.

SPEAKER_00 32:28

You know, they might not know all the right things to say, but they can help you get help. Sometimes they sometimes you just need somebody to sit and listen to you or just sit with you in silence. Yeah. Just ask for what ask for that, which is you know, uh again, it it it's a challenge because people don't want to talk, especially men. You guys, you know, you gotta have that macho image. Gotta have that macho image, and you you want to be the tough guy. And and so it's, you know, I mean men are more likely to to die by suicide. I I think it's 10 times more likely to die by suicide than than anyone else. And it's um Yeah, I think I think some of that, you know, it stems from society, and and you have to be this tough guy. You can't cry, you can't show your emotions. It's okay to do that.

SPEAKER_01 33:27

Yeah. Yeah, I know. I I I I've been there. Um, and and it is, it's the worst. Just keeping it all inside.

SPEAKER_00 33:38

Um, and if you know, if if someone approaches you or are you know you're concerned about someone and um you just kind of want to want to check in with them and because you're noticing something is off, just ask them, you know, or tell them, you know, I've been thinking about you a lot lately. How are you really doing? And I I'll tell you one, I'll I'll tell you one answer that I never let slide. And that is I'm fine. And I learned this I I learned this acronym for the word FINE, which is feelings inside never expressed. And I so I don't buy that one, and I will tell people that. Yeah, and I I actually I run into this girl quite often, and I always ask her how she's doing because I know she's had some struggles. I always got I'm fine, I'm fine, I'm fine. And one day I push back on her. I'm like, you know what? I don't I uh uh I want to know how you're really doing because I sense that things aren't really fine. And I told her that acronym. And she was like, wow. And so now every time I see her, she makes it a point to ask me how I'm doing, number one. And number two, she'll always say, you know what, I'm having a good day, or today's not so good, or she doesn't answer with FINE anymore. And she thinks about it.

SPEAKER_01 35:09

Fair enough. Okay, so where can we find where where can my listeners find Glow for Hope? And if they want to support, how can they go about doing that?

SPEAKER_00 35:23

Uh it our website is glow for hope nfp, like not for profit. So glowforhope nfp.org. Um it'll tell you about our different events we have going. We keep watch on it for the resource hub and the parents' guide that's coming out. All of our podcast episodes are there. We do have the um glow for hope podcast, sparky conversation on mental health, where we have various experts and people that come on and share their stories and experiences. And we're we're fairly new with that, about 26 episodes now, I think. Um growing. So cool. We um and there's a big donate button on there if you want to donate. We're always looking for volunteers too. Um perfect. And we

Help For Struggling Listeners

SPEAKER_00 36:13

do have our our Spike Out Suicide coming up in May, but next month. I don't know when this is gonna air. Um, but we also do virtual teams. So you can be anywhere and have a team on Spike Out Suicide and just fundrais, just fundraise for us.

SPEAKER_01 36:28

Nice. Um, Kelly Pelker, thank you so much for sharing your time with me today um and my my audience. Uh, you guys are putting so much positive energy out in the world, and it's so needed. And I just want to say thank you from me and my audience to you guys.

SPEAKER_00 36:51

Well, thank you, Mike. I appreciate you having us. And uh it's people like you that give us a voice or a platform to get out there and help spread the word. So thank you.

SPEAKER_01 37:06

Thanks so much for hanging out with us for today's episode of the Kindness Matters Podcast with my very special guest, Kelly Helper. I really appreciate you tuning in and being a part of this kindness community. If you like what you heard, leaving a quick review or a comment really helps others find the show. And it means a lot to me, personally. Anyway, if you can't support us financially, hopefully okay, the best way you can support the show is to go out and do one random act of kindness for a stranger today. But if you are in a position to help us grow, you can make a one-time gift or join one of our monthly supporters here over on buying me a copy, or maybe buying submerged, or checking out my new book, Still Changing the World. All those links are in the show notes as they help support this show, and they help to uh continue to push kindness out into the world. We will be back again next week with another new episode, but until then, remember, Tynus Matters and delete it.