The Kindness Matters Podcast
So. Much. Division. Let's talk about how to change that. Re-engage as neighbors, friends, co-workers and family. Let's set out to change the world. Strike that. Change A World. One person at a time, make someone's life a little better and then do it again tomorrow and the day after that, through kindness.
Kindness is a Super-Power that each of us has within us. It is so powerful it has the potential to change not only your life but those around you, too. Let's talk about kindness.
The Kindness Matters Podcast
Healing Trauma With Curiosity, Boundaries, And Real Kindness
What if kindness isn’t about being agreeable, but about choosing love that expands you? We sit down with energy healer and 13-sidereal astrologer Tiffany O’Hearn to unpack the real difference between performative niceness and the kind of kindness that heals trauma, strengthens boundaries, and rebuilds community. From the first moments, Tiffany grounds the conversation in integrity—why intent matters, how language shapes energy, and how a simple thank you can open a closed nervous system.
We explore the three P’s of people-pleasing—prevent, persuade, please—and how they quietly drain respect for self and others. Tiffany shares practical tools to spot the twist of a fearful yes, listen for the first voice of intuition, and make choices that feel expansive rather than constricted. You’ll hear how receiving praise, help, or a paid coffee without instantly “paying it back” restores the giving-and-receiving loop that keeps generosity alive. We dive into the mirror effect of trauma on our narratives, the way we seek evidence to confirm our beliefs, and how curiosity disrupts judgment across political, cultural, and personal lines.
The conversation moves from inner work to communal practice: creating low-wall spaces where people can gather without performance, from trail communities to neighborhood rituals. Tiffany’s nature metaphors—a flower that doesn’t negotiate with the bee, grass that rebounds after a step—offer a blueprint for resilience and grace. Expect candid stories, clear frameworks, and grounded takeaways you can use today: accept the compliment, check your body’s signal, set the kind boundary, and ask what you don’t yet know.
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SPEAKER_01:Welcome to the I just care with the family. Take care of spread the light a little further. Because when it comes to kind of the ripple.
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SPEAKER_01:Welcome to the show, everybody. We are so happy that you are here. I appreciate that you took time out of your your precious time out of your day to listen to this show. I hope it's positive for you. If there's anything in this show that you feel is uplifting or relaxing or whatever that positive feeling is that you get from this, if you'd be so kind as to tell your friends, your family, your coworkers that there's a podcast out there that makes you feel good. And uh I would greatly appreciate that. And I'm sure my guest would too. Um I have a fantastic show for you today. My guest is Tiffany O'Hearn, and she is an energy healer and a 13 sidereal astrologer doing compassionate transformational work. Uh, she believes deeply that each person carries within them an innate capacity to heal, whether that's from trauma, ancestral wounds, past life patterns, or entrenched emotional triggers. For Tiffany, healing is not just a process, it's a reclamation, a journey of stepping into your own power, reclaiming your narrative, and becoming the co-creator of your life. She treats this path with humility, care, and dedication, always honoring the trust that her clients place in her. Through her sessions, she holds space for deep exploration and energetic clearing, helping people break free from limiting programs so they can align with their highest potential. Welcome to the show, Tiffany O'Hearn. Thank you so much for being here.
SPEAKER_04:Mike, thank you so much for having me. It truly is an honor. Kindness is something that is just so wonderful and beautiful and something that we get to practice daily. And so I'm just grateful to be in the midst of such love and grace and kindness. So thank you to you, Mike, and thanks for all you do for this podcast. And thank you so much to the listeners as well.
SPEAKER_01:Indeed. Thank you. Thank you for thanking me and my listeners. On behalf of my listeners, I'd like to say thank you. Um, but I mean, so some of what you do, it's all it's not all sunshine and light, is it? Because you deal with healing from trauma, right? Where where did you how did you get into that particular form of healing?
SPEAKER_04:From having a ton of trauma. You know, honestly, right? What we are are what we have algemized becomes what we get to share.
SPEAKER_01:Did you say algomized?
SPEAKER_04:Alchemized.
SPEAKER_01:Alchemized, okay. I'm sorry. Yeah, sorry.
SPEAKER_04:No, that's okay. What we get what we have, you know, I think some of the the most beautiful, you know, it's like if you you're on a kindness podcast, you host it, right? So you're out and about, and if you're not kind, then it that would show in the integrity of your podcast, wouldn't it?
SPEAKER_01:It would, definitely.
SPEAKER_04:You know, so it's like, you know, I'm here as an energy healer, you know, because I've healed a lot of trauma, but more importantly, I know it works because I've done so much work on myself first.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, for sure. Um and your work oftentimes explores transforming trauma through connection and kindness, right? How do you define the difference between being nice and being kind? And why does that distinction matter?
SPEAKER_04:Thank you so much for this question, because I truly, truly love it. And you know, we say nice so much. It's nice, nicey nice, nice. What a nice boy. Right. Oh, so nice, right? And I I am being a little tongue-in-cheek with this. There's there's nothing inherently wrong with nice, right? However, language and you know with our abracadabra, right? With our words, we create. And so with that, to me, nice is doing something for somebody else for something in return. And so if I hold that door and I say, no, come on through, Mike, I probably wouldn't know your name, but let's just say. And I go and you say nothing to me. Well, you don't even acknowledge me, right? That to me is nice because I'm seeking something in return. Kindness is doing something without a return. However, it's also with this understanding that what we give, we also receive. And so yes, we know that we will receive kindness in return, but it doesn't have to be in that moment and it doesn't have to be in that way. And it's not, I'm not doing it for a result. I'm doing it to simply be kind because I know nothing about you or what you've been through.
SPEAKER_01:Right. Right. Yeah. The genuine kindness and you do, you see it a lot of times. And I was surprised. Um and there are so many people out there that are, I don't want to use the word flaunting their kindness, but but they do it for the clicks or the views or the whatever, right? And it's and it's obvious even to a casual watcher that you know, maybe they're just not doing that for the right reason. And I think that um that shows. And people will you when you said something about Mike podcast, and if I didn't reflect those values, it would show in the integrity of our show. And and you're absolutely right. Um yeah, cuz and and living in the land of Minnesota Nice, I can tell you there is a vast difference. Because oftentimes Minnesota nice, it's a phrase, um can mean something entirely different than what it sounds like it means. I have no idea what I'm doing here. I'm just winging it, right? Um, but but but how does how does kindness play into the transformation or the the healing work that you do?
SPEAKER_04:I think, and you know, and that's also you know such a profound question, you know, because I I find kindness to border around love. And, you know, it's just such a high frequency, it's so kind. Love is kindness. Yes, you know, you can't have love without kindness. And so when we're talking about, you know, energy healing, when we're talking about trauma, when we're talking about all of these things, when we can step into kindness, we're stepping into love. And when we have love for ourselves, because I do, I'm very much of the opinion that the love we have for ourselves is equal to the love that we can give, in a sense that it's healed love and not codependent love and not restrictive love. You know, we we often say, My child, I, you know, I love you to the moon and back. I would do anything for you. Probably not true, nor should it be true, right? Right, you know, our partners, right, right. Our partners. Oh, you are the puzzle piece that connects me, right? You were my soulmate. You were uh, you know, you you are the one, you were the key that I I was missing. No, no, no, no, no. I'm not saying that they're not cute at terms, but the reality of is that is is that's we need to find that within ourselves first. And so I always use nature because nature to me is one of the most kindness and loving experiences that we can have. Like I was speaking to you before, Mike. A flower blossoms, it doesn't care if uh if a a bee comes in and pollinates from it. It doesn't close up and say, no bee, you've had enough, right? It simply just allows. When the wind blows and it takes its seeds, it doesn't restrict, it says thank you, right? And so it nature it doesn't the grass doesn't get upset if you step on it, it just pings back to life. Right. There's so many examples of kindness and love in nature. What I always say too is we are all human beings. And what differentiates us is our experiences. And with that, how can I stay curious? How can I stay compassionate to what it is that I don't know? My daughter, my daughter is I don't even want to call her a kindness expert, but she's nine years old and I just feel like she has a kindness down. And you know, she keeps money in we keep money in the car so that if somebody is in need, we just give it without asking questions. Because that is kindness. You know, kindness is letting somebody go in traffic. Kindness is not getting upset at the person that cut you off because I promise you they did not do it to you. And there's something you don't know. There's something you don't know. Maybe it's their first time on the road, maybe they have their own stressors, maybe they're crying, maybe they just got um maybe they're bringing an infant baby home. Maybe they're driving with a cake on someone's lap, right? There's so many instances where we don't know, where we step into judgment, and that supersedes our ability to love and show kindness in those moments. And so, how curious can me stay to what we don't know? Yeah, that's kindness.
SPEAKER_01:That is kindness, that's absolute kindness. And that was actually kind of um gonna be in my my next question. But I think we just did it.
SPEAKER_03:I mean, look at that.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, here's one for you. Many people equate kindness with always saying yes or avoiding conflict. How can we learn to be kind while also setting boundaries or speaking hard truth?
SPEAKER_04:Ooh, okay, Mike. Now, I'm coming at I'm coming at you, huh, with this one because I'll tell you one. I am Tiffany O'Hearn and I am a reforming people pleaser. Okay, I just want to make that very clear. I am a reforming people pleaser. I practice not people pleasing. But that sounds funny when we're talking about kindness, right?
SPEAKER_02:But use them all.
SPEAKER_04:Right? Here's it's not. It's not. And here's the thing. We were talking about love, right? We were talking about kindness and how much we can hold within us, you know. And I ask myself really this one question that kind of pinnacles around three other. And the first one is does this respect me? Whatever it is, does this respect me? And if it doesn't, I can always, you know, because we have this little, we have this, you know, Siri inside of us. We have this, you know, Google, echo, whatever it is. We have it. And it's called our intuition. I know we don't, we're gonna get her all started up again, but it's called our intuition. And the more that we can connect with it, and listen, if you're new to intuition, I always say, start easy, you know, what color socks do I want to wear today? And then do exactly what that first voice is, because the second voice is your ego, the first voice is your intuition. That's the way I can define it best. And so when we're talking about pleasing, because so often we feel like I just need to say yes. But let me ask you, when it comes to people pleasing, there's the three P's of people pleasing that I have, you know, formulated in my in my mind, and is ask yourself, are you doing this to prevent, to persuade, or to please? Because if you're doing it to prevent, you're not respecting yourself. If you're doing it to please, you're not respecting yourself. If you're doing it to persuade, you're not you're not respecting yourself, right? And now listen, that that seems like a hard line. You know, there could there be, could there be ways, like, yes, I've opened that, right? But by and large, if we're looking at this a little bit more globally, if I'm trying to prevent, if it's like, okay, Mike, right? You're like, you, you, you come home, I hear your car in the driveway, and I'm like, oh, he really doesn't like when I leave my shoes out and I run and go pick up my shoes. Or, right? That could be pleasing in a positive way. But did my nervous system become engaged?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Right? If my nervous system became engaged, then that comes from fear. So I'm not doing that out of love and kindness, which means I'm not respecting myself in it.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Right? Persuading, persuading is. Yeah, persuasion, you know, persuading is, you know, um, you know, am I trying to persuade the answers so that you still feel happy, even though it's I'm going to, you know, keep a piece of myself away from that, right? Like, what do you want for dinner, Mike? Oh, I don't know, whatever you want. Well, I was thinking about Mexican, right? And you're and I'm like, oh, Mexican he's gonna say Mexican. I think he says Mexican. Okay, let's do Mexican, right? Because I'm just trying to pr you know to to please, to persuade, whatever it is, to prevent, to prevent, you know, prevent you getting upset. I picked up my shoes.
SPEAKER_01:Right. Yeah. The three P's. Don't do them.
SPEAKER_04:It's more about reflection. It's more about reflection, right? It's not necessarily about just not doing them, but I always use it as like the as something to to come back home to. Am I doing this? Right? Like, let's just say in the morning I get up, um, which I do do this, right? And I get my partner's tea ready. Do I have to do it every morning? I do not. So am I doing it on mornings that I don't want to to please the other person, which I prefer to just lay in bed and not get up and get your tea, right? Am I doing it to prevent you from getting upset with me that I didn't make your tea? Am I doing it to persuade you to do something for me? Right? Like there are ways to kind of check in with ourselves, engage. How do we feel? Because our body, our body, just like our intuition, is always telling us. And if we start to pay attention, we can feel the subtle nuances of what restriction feels like, what no feels like, because it's a twisting, right? Where a yes is expansive. And if you are doing something for somebody else, it should be, it should feel expansive in you, and it should be the essence of kindness and love. I'm gonna get up this morning, Mike, and I'm gonna make you your tea because I want to do that for you for no other reason because I it's my gift to you.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. I do the same thing though. I get up in the morning, I usually start the coffee and not I might pour a cup before my wife gets up. But once I hear her up, I'll go ahead and make her coffee. Not because I think I have to, not because I think that I'm I'm not trying to please or persuade. I like the feeling, knowing how happy she'll be when she walks in the room and she sees her coffee already. Right? So, yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about there.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah. You know, it'd be like if you, you know, she comes downstairs and you're like, here you go, honey, here's your steaming hot cup of coffee, and you hand it to her and you're like, wait, tell me first, tell me you love me first, say thank you first, right? Like that's you know, we could be joking with it, of course, but like, of course, it's a it's an exaggeration to what we're speaking of, right? When you do something for somebody else, it is that check-in system to say, how does this make me feel? Is this and here's the thing if you're a reforming people pleaser like myself, and it sounds like Mike, you are too, right?
SPEAKER_01:It's not a I'm not reforming, I'm not even working on it.
SPEAKER_04:He's not even working, so it's okay. He's not even working on it. So it's about having those times of awareness to ask yourself the questions. You're not gonna do it every time, but when you are aware of it, right? When you are aware of it, are you doing does it respect you and your values and your boundaries or does it not? Are you doing it right? Are you doing it for these three P's? Or are you doing it because it's genuine kindness and genuine love? And those are the ways that you can really start to trust yourself that you do have all of the answers.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, for sure. Love that. I have another question for you. Listen, no.
SPEAKER_01:Um how does trauma back to trauma? How does trauma impact our ability to both give and receive kindness and what role does curiosity play in healing those wounds?
SPEAKER_04:So when we talk, you know, trauma is you know, trauma is such a fun word, and it maybe fun is not the best word.
SPEAKER_02:Oh yeah. Interesting word.
SPEAKER_04:It's probably not it's probably not fun. It's just an interesting word, right?
SPEAKER_02:Right, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:If when we hear trauma, you know, our body probably starts to tighten a little, right? We have a reaction towards it, you know, because it's not, it has come with some wounds. There's some wounding there, or else there wouldn't be trauma.
SPEAKER_02:Right.
SPEAKER_03:And Mike, I lost my train of thought. Re-engage me. What was the question?
SPEAKER_01:Not a parting gauge track five.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, right.
SPEAKER_01:Tiffany's train of thought. We're talking about trauma and and what um how it impacts our ability to give and receive kindness.
SPEAKER_04:So when we're talking about giving and receiving, right? Well, we first talked about kindness. Kindness love, it is like that infinity loop. So it's the eight turned upside down. Oh, right. Which means that it doesn't stop. So as much as we give, we will receive. And that's kind, like that's loving. It's not selfish. It is whole, it is part of the energy of giving is to equitably receive. And so often we want to give, and we we want to receive because we're human beings. We do want to receive. Yeah, right. But it's the same thing if I say, Mike, I love your sweatshirt. And you in turn say, This old thing, people will do that. Yes, I like your hair. Oh, I didn't even shower this morning. And and we have such an inability to receive, and that usually comes from our wounds of our past, of not being able to receive. If we've heard our parents not able to receive, that becomes our inner monologue. If we don't feel worthy, and that can come through our ancestral, you know, our cestrial wounds, our past life wounding, right? We come with all of these wounds with this trauma already entrenched in us. And now we have this new life that we're, you know, trying to work through. And so receiving becomes very, very challenging for people. And that is a trauma wounding. And so to practice receiving is when somebody opens the door to walk through it and say thank you. That's it. Thank you. When someone sends you a compliment, it's to not negate it, it's to simply say thank you. Because here's the other thing I love to compliment people, right? I really do. And it goes back to this energy exchange. I can only receive compliments, or people can only receive from me to the which I'm able to receive in myself because that is energy and it is a mirror. And so I'm going to energetically attract people who can't receive as well if I'm not able to receive. Now, I I know I let people go in traffic because it makes me feel good. It's a kind thing to do. I also know that people will let me go. And it doesn't mean that day on that car ride, right? Right. But it happens. And and even I live on a busy, a somewhat of a busy road in one of our uh one entrance to our driveway is on the top of that road. And I can tell you, Mike, that I pull up to that and I put on my blanker, and I generally don't have to wait more than three or four cars before someone lets me go.
SPEAKER_01:Nice.
SPEAKER_04:And and but and I don't, I don't expect to wave, thank you. I I double wave, I make sure everyone knows. Right, right. Um, but I do my best to make sure that I see people and and thank them in the like because that is the energy of giving and receiving, is to be able to receive. So if you want to be able to give compliments, then I implore you to receive them. If you want to be a good listener, we have to be able to listen in return.
SPEAKER_01:You know, somebody will compliment me. Oh, I like your shirt. And and just like you were saying, all this ratty old thing, I say thank you. And then there's a voice in my head that went, Shut up. You don't need to say anything else to shut up.
SPEAKER_02:Like okay.
SPEAKER_04:Sometimes we need that because we do, like, you know, Mike, if you were on the side of the road and you had a flat tire, right? And I pulled over, would you want me to help? Would you receive my help? I don't know. Would I receive it? You know? And so the same is true, you know. If we want to be able to receive from people, you know, that you know, in Dunkin Donuts, I think Dunk of Donuts, I don't know if you guys have Dunkin Donuts, but Starbucks, whatever it is, there's this the trend of people buying somebody coffee. And then the person buys it behind them because that's what you're supposed to do. But I say don't. I say simply receive and do it the next time. Pay it forward for a future time. Because in that moment when somebody buys you that coffee, you should have the permission to simply receive it. And then the next day buy someone the coffee or do something different with it, right? Because it's really not about the money. It's just about showing that kindness and respect towards somebody else. And we can do it in other ways. But that's to me is a great example of somebody saying, Oh, someone bought me a coffee, I have to buy the next person. Why? Yeah, why can't we receive it?
SPEAKER_01:This whole line of people buying a next person's coffee until you run out of people.
SPEAKER_03:Right.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, it's it's it's about pay it forward, not necessarily in that moment, just paying it forward at an undetermined time and place.
SPEAKER_04:There is that there is that um, you know, i it's it's like debt is not the right word. Um and it's totally eluding me. Well, the word that I'm I'm seeking. But you know, it's like you know, you do something kind for somebody, you don't have to keep a log of it. No, because you just know it's coming back. And the same is true. I mean, we can call that karma, you can call it whatever you want to call it, because people do refer to it as karma, right? When people say when when I'm talking to people, I often will hear their programs, their wounding, because they'll tell you. They'll tell you. And so if if you know I'm having a conversation with somebody and they're like, no one ever listens to me. I'm like, okay, you don't listen to yourself. That's the wound. That's I mean, that's the mirror to the wounds. Now I wouldn't say it like that, right? But we are always mirroring our wounds onto other people, and they will tell you their program, they will tell you what's real for them. And so what happens is no one ever listens to me. We are only we become so narrow in seeking because we're human beings. So we seek the the validity of what we feel. Does that make sense? So if if if you see me as kind right now, you're just gonna continue to look for the evidence that I'm kind. You're not gonna look for the other side of that. You're not gonna look for the ways I'm unkind.
SPEAKER_02:Okay.
SPEAKER_04:If if um if you think that I'm a good listener, you're not gonna look for the evidence that I'm not a good listener. If I think that I'm beautiful, I'm not going to seek the evidence that I'm not beautiful. I'm going to attract the evidence that I am, vice versa. If I find myself to be unattractive, I'm going to see the woman who who didn't let me go and think because she thinks I'm ugly or whatever, right? Like we will seek the evidence for what it is that we're feeling.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:And so we can seek the evidence. And I was just, you know, I'm just showing this to my daughter the other day. I always say we have either a line that goes, you know, east to west or north to south. And so, you know, north to south, the north is like the higher vibrating, or I look at the the east to be the higher vibrating. Whereas the west is a little bit more of the lower vibrating, and south would be lower vibrating. So, like, where does love fall? Love is higher north.
SPEAKER_02:Okay.
SPEAKER_04:All right, where like anger is, you know, that's a little bit more south. Right, right, right. And so we have this line. And it's never good nor bad. We live in a we live in in a world that tells us everything is black and white in the most non-black and white world, right? Like and you say you you can say, you can say, well, Tiffany, there's the the law. And I'm like, yeah, but for every one law, there's four others that will counteract that one law if we need it, right? And so there is no black and white. And so when we come to curiosity, it's about everyone coming from a different experience. And so if you say, um, you know, we can go in the political space because that's generally where people like to fall at that these days now, where it says, if I have a political sticker on my bumper sticker, you can pick Democrat, Republican, I really don't care because I don't get caught up in it. You have a Democratic sticker, you're nothing but a jerk. Or you have uh a Republican sticker, so automatically I don't like you. And I'm like, what the what? You know nothing about this person except they put a sticker. So instead of just deeming them to be bad, can we get curious? Can we get curious to what why do you support that? Yes, right, to what we don't know. And there's thousands of opportunities for us to get curious every single day for what we don't know. And I use this analogy quite a bit, and to even further my point, you know, we can say murder is wrong, and I don't disagree with you, right? But let's just say, let's just say you're a 10-year-old boy growing up in an inner city gang. And the only way for you to survive is to take another life.
SPEAKER_01:We can tell that or the right thing.
SPEAKER_04:Right. But who gets to determine that? Because we're not that 10-year-old boy, and that's the point, is that you don't know what it was like to live in those shoes. And so often we say, empathy is walking in somebody else's shoes. And I say, it's not. Empathy is understanding that they have different shoes, and so do you. And your experience is what leads you to where you are today. Good, bad, right, wrong, it doesn't matter.
SPEAKER_02:You're right.
SPEAKER_01:When you're right, you're right.
SPEAKER_03:As long as you're not left.
SPEAKER_01:Don't be wrong. That's a whole other episode.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, right.
SPEAKER_01:Um, okay. Last question. How can communities or organizations I like communities better, but create cultures that prior? Prioritize kindness and curiosity over performative niceness.
SPEAKER_04:I like that you said communities too, because we are human beings and we commune by nature and and we are existing in a world that is seemingly destructive of community and communing, right? We COVID was a time, I have no opinion towards it. It it had some really great aspects to it and some probably detrimental. Okay, but here we are. Uh and what I know is that there's so much technology out there. We get to have this beautiful conversation. You're in Minnesota, I'm in Massachusetts, we get to have this beautiful conversation, which we wouldn't have been able to do. However, if we're not utilizing community and connection, then we are taking the very essence of humanity away from each other. And it's not with it's not with AI, that's not I mean, it it's not the right, it's it's not the human connection that we need. And so we are doing a detriment to ourselves by being on social media so much by listening to opinions of others that know nothing about our life, right? And not being in community. And so we we it need to be the change makers. We need to be the impact in these communities who can stand up and do these kind things for other people. And I think right now we're really primed to do that because I think that there's a great void that people are missing in community and connection. And so when we want to bring that back, it's to do it without boundaries. Boundaries is probably not the right word.
SPEAKER_03:Without borders, without walls, yes, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_04:Accept everyone for who they are in this moment and allow them to come to you. You know what I mean? Invite them. It's like the field of dreams, right? If you build it, they will come. And that is not just a movie title.
SPEAKER_01:No, it's an actual thing.
SPEAKER_03:People are seeking it.
SPEAKER_01:Yes. Yeah, I yeah, absolutely. Totally agree.
SPEAKER_03:Did I answer that question?
SPEAKER_01:You did, I think. The question was how can communities or organizations create cultures? Well, we asked how they could create them. How? Okay.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And and you know, just you after COVID, since COVID, I should say, I have been really, really bad about I used to go out a lot, networking, you know, for business and that sort of thing. And I don't do that anymore. I need to get back into that. I I've been bad about that because I haven't been re-engaging. This is so much easier, right?
SPEAKER_04:It is easier, but we still need to find the ways to to connect, you know? And I think that, you know, I I I hike a lot. I don't know if you're familiar with the Appalachian Trail. Um runs from Georgia, yeah, it runs from Georgia to Maine. And so I section hike it. And so I'll go out, you know, a week at a time in the summer um with the just a 20, 25-pound backpack and thrive, really. And there are so many hikers that we meet when we out our are out on the trails. And it becomes its own community. And every person who steps foot on that trail in Maine or Georgia or wherever they're coming from, they're coming to transmute a lot of their wounds, whether they recognize it or not. And it becomes a really beautiful community that nobody that that I don't know that it's always designed to be that, right? You're just heading out for the night, but you're communing with other people who are doing the same thing. And so there are beautiful ways out there for us to find the how. And that is whatever inspires you inside, connect with that.
SPEAKER_02:Yes.
SPEAKER_04:And find the people who are doing it.
SPEAKER_02:Yes. Because you already have something in common.
SPEAKER_03:That's right.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER_01:100% agree. Tiffany O'Hearn, thank you so much for taking the time to be with me today. I really appreciate it. You've given us a lot to think about. Thank you. And you don't have a web you do have a website. What okay, what's what's the actual name of your your healing business?
SPEAKER_04:Sure. So I'm Tiffany O'Hearn, the Soulful Guide, which is you know what I can be found on on all of my uh social media platforms. I also write for Substack, which right now is Trauma Brought Me Here. And it's it's illustrating and highlighting that the deepest, darkest wounds become the most it's alchemy, right? When we move through them, they do become that gold. And that's what I'm I'm choosing to highlight right now. So I also I use that right now as sort of a website or a landing page.
SPEAKER_02:Okay.
SPEAKER_04:Um, I also do a lot of astrology, as you had alluded to in the beginning. A lot of what? Um astrology.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, okay. Yep.
SPEAKER_04:And energy healing. And really, my I seek to be a guide to allow and invite you to remember Okay.
SPEAKER_01:Well, we can find you on Facebook, Instagram, right?
SPEAKER_03:You can.
SPEAKER_02:Any others?
SPEAKER_03:TikTok.
SPEAKER_01:TikTok.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:I feel better now. I'm happy you felt better. Yeah. I had a friend tell me during COVID, she said, have you ever been on TikTok? And I'm like, I'm I'm like way too old for TikTok. And she's like, no, no, no, no, don't don't get on it. Just just get on and I I find the videos help me feel better. They make me laugh and that kind of stuff. And I'm like, oh, okay, well, all right. And then as I was spending more time over there, too much time, um, I thought I could use this to promote my podcast. So here we are. I'm still looking for that first thousand followers.
SPEAKER_03:You're gonna get it, Mike.
SPEAKER_01:Nah. You know what? And I've seen so many people, I had a a guy on the show who makes fudge down in Lexington, Kentucky, I want to say. And he just had this idea. He he found him, he did one video that just like popped off and put him in the creators. Was it called the Creators Club?
SPEAKER_03:No, something yeah, something like that, I think.
SPEAKER_01:Something like that. And he could make money from his videos, and he took that money and he started paying off school lunch debt.
SPEAKER_03:Oh wow, right?
SPEAKER_01:So, yeah, that's my new goal.
SPEAKER_03:All right. There it is.
SPEAKER_01:It's all about Tiffany. Tiffany, I will put all of your links in the show notes. People can find you, but not really find you, because that would be creepy. People can find you on social media and reach out and connect. And uh thank you so much for your time. I appreciate it.
SPEAKER_04:Thank you very much for this platform, and thank you for connecting with me, and thank you to the listeners. And may you find kindness and joy, not only to this podcast, but to the rest of your life.
SPEAKER_01:Amen. Thank you so much for listening to this episode of the Kindness Matters podcast with my guest, Tiffany O'Hearn. Um, I hope that this episode left you feeling a little easier, a little more hopeful about the state of the world that we all share. If you did enjoy this episode, something useful about you. Please, please feel free to tell your friends, your family, your co-workers about two, email must be must, and uh I think we'll find out as well.
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