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Seeds To Bliss

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What if bliss isn’t something you hunt, but something you remember? We sit down with meditation teacher and healer Anni Eza, co-founder of Seeds of Bliss, to explore a grounded path to emotional freedom that blends ancient wisdom with modern psychotherapy. Annie shares how she created a structured yet flexible method that honors each person’s story, nervous system, and pace—so healing stops feeling like a maze and starts feeling like a homecoming.

Across the hour, we unpack the difference between joy, happiness, and bliss; why linear productivity burns us out; and how honoring the seasons of the soul restores energy and clarity. Annie walks us through real, moving case studies: women navigating recurrent miscarriage who carried to term after clearing deep fears and inherited beliefs; elite athletes told they were done who returned to the field with a layered approach that paired medical care with somatic and energetic work. The throughline is integration—body and mind, science and soul, self and community.

We also talk about the loneliness that comes from feeling “other,” and why community is a healing technology in its own right. Group sessions at Seeds of Bliss address collective patterns like shame, grief, and belonging, while one-on-one work tends personal trauma with precision. Annie’s stance on self-leadership is refreshing: reclaim your power and choose what’s right for you, while holding the long-term good of the collective. If it harms the whole, it won’t serve you either.

Looking for a community that speaks your language? Annie’s team runs a free Facebook group and launches a new membership to support ongoing practice, seasonal resets, and kindred connection. Listen, reflect, and share with someone who needs proof that wholeness is possible. If the conversation resonates, follow the show, leave a rating or review, and pass it on—who in your life needs this bridge between science and soul?

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SPEAKER_00:

Hello and welcome everybody to the Kindness Matters podcast. My name is Mike Rathbun. I am your host. If you've listened before, you already knew that. But if you're new here, now you know. We're so happy to have you here. I'm so grateful that you uh chose to take 30 minutes or so out of your time and to listen to uplifting stories that uh that we can provide for you. Um we have a fantastic episode for you today. Um my guest today is Annie Ezza. Uh she is a compassionate healer, a meditation teacher, and co-founder of Seeds of Bliss, where she has guided more than 10,000 people through deep personal change and spiritual growth. Her original guided meditations and transformative healing journeys empower individuals to reconnect with themselves, heal trauma, and embrace emotional freedom. Annie blends modern healing modalities with ancient wisdom, bringing a soulful approach to both personal and collective well-being. Recognized globally, congratulations, for her expertise and heartfelt presence. Annie has created a sanctuary that honors each person's unique journey, reminding us that true bliss is not found but remembered within. Welcome to the show, Annie.

SPEAKER_02:

Nice to meet you again, Mike, and thank you for having me.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, I'm so happy because and and there's a lot to unpack here. Um, so talk to me about seeds of bliss. Now we're talking literal seeds, right?

SPEAKER_02:

Exactly. Um actually, there are the seeds that we understand from nature and plants, and there are also seeds of consciousness which reside within every being, and the same applies to human beings. So this is what we are cultivating, actually, what we are awakening with our practices, those seeds that are already available within each human being, but they are dormant because they've been forgotten for so long. Oh no.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay, so so how did this all start? What inspired you to find Seeds of Bliss and how did your personal journey influence the vision for this sanctuary of healing and spiritual growth?

SPEAKER_02:

Actually, life happened. I never planned to be a healer or as it usually does. Yeah, or to build a brand or a movement. None of that was uh in my personal plan, but life had other plans, of course. I started my own healing journey because I felt like 50% of myself was dormant, active, but dormant. I couldn't reach out to it, so I wanted to find this dwarf uh desperately and build that bridge, and I started my own healing journey, and my healer was insisting that I should be trained to become a healer. And me being me, curious about new things and experimenting, I went to that training and then things uh started falling into place on their own.

SPEAKER_00:

Cool. Yeah, curiosity can open so many doors, can't it?

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_00:

Um, so how do you define bliss? We hear that term a lot, and and I think it means something different to everybody. Not everybody, but I many people feel hear bliss and and and think of something. Um why do you believe it's something that we need to remember rather than find externally?

SPEAKER_02:

That's a cool question. I love answering that. Um actually, bliss is a physical state, our normal state, sorry. Um and we have forgotten that because we are brought up and conditioned and educated in certain ways. So we are somehow divided from ourselves, from our truth, for what's natural for our system. And we try to fit all in in all those checkboxes, and this makes us pretty miserable, I could say. And remembering our freedom, remembering who we are, what what makes us happy. This is bliss. It's very close to authenticity, following your path, your heart, or whatever, whatever you want to call it. But bliss is mostly about free flowing with life.

SPEAKER_00:

I'm sorry, one more time, please.

SPEAKER_02:

Bliss is about free flowing with life.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay. So are bliss and happiness interchangeable phrases?

SPEAKER_02:

I think they are very close, but bliss is a state of being more than happiness. There's joy, which is let's say somehow lower in vibration, but still very penetrative and uh very warm and inviting. Then we have happiness, and above happiness there's bliss.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay, all right. Um, so back to Seeds of Bliss. What is the core philosophy um behind Seeds of Bliss and your signature, your signature awakening the seeds healing method?

SPEAKER_02:

Actually, Seeds of Bliss is all about bridging things, bridging uh seemingly opposite concepts and contexts and merging them together to create wholeness as light and darkness, body and mind, body and soul. And awakening the seeds is a beautiful healing salad I have crafted after many many certifications in different modalities and years of experience because I I kept finding out that each modality has uh strong elements and weaknesses. So I extracted the strong elements, the ones that really worked for my clients and me, and then I filled the gaps with my experience and created something which is very structured and very flexible at the same time, in order to honor each individual separately and their needs.

SPEAKER_00:

Structured and flexible, they almost sound like a contradiction in terms.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, this is actually seeds of bliss. If you uh if you observe um the name of the brand itself, it's like seeds being in the soil in the darkness, and then bliss is a state of being, a higher state of being. So it's darkness and light bridged together. And we tend to bring the opposites together because this is where wholeness resides, right?

SPEAKER_00:

Okay, sure. That makes perfect sense to me. So one of the things I I love about your organization and the work that you do is that you're not tied to one, it's not just holistic and established medicine. You blend them. Right? Talk to me more about that. How did that come about? And and and if you could give me some examples too of of how you would blend two different modalities. I I I apologized for asking such a long question.

SPEAKER_02:

No, it's okay. Uh I can be very succinct, no matter what the question is. Um blending modalities is easy enough for me, okay, because I'm here to bridge things. Uh so for instance, uh I use elements of the meditation practices of the East, and I also use elements from classical psychotherapy of the West.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay, all right. Can you give me an example of a situation where you you blended those?

SPEAKER_02:

Uh part of my healing sessions is always guided um meditation. It's not really that though, but it seems to be like a meditation because um the receiver is sitting or lying down with eyes closed, and there is a reason for that. We want to cut off the external stimuli and focus back to the internal world. Um, and there are many uh many case uh case studies in my career um that using what I know and all those elements brought together uh has resulted in resolving fertility problems for women.

SPEAKER_00:

Really? Yeah for women, yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Um yes, I I never had a man coming to me about that.

SPEAKER_00:

We generally won't. It's a guy thing.

SPEAKER_02:

And also I have many athletes, professional athletes that got injured and they were never supposed to be active in sports field again, but they are.

SPEAKER_00:

That's kind of cool, yeah. Wow, and and so you can help people like that?

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, okay, of course, with their doctor's support, okay?

SPEAKER_00:

Right. And I think that's do you this was not a question I gave you, but um do you find that um I think in sports, I think it's more common in sports teams, uh the sports medicine areas where they're kind of being more open to different modalities, um Eastern medicine and that type of thing when treating their athletes.

SPEAKER_02:

Not really, it depends on the individual. Mostly when they they turn to let's say alternative or more natural pathways to heal themselves, when their doctors um tell them that hey, you're not gonna go back ever again. This is for life, this is gonna stay. So they get freaked out and desperate to resolve the issue, so they try out everything, and therefore they are also very receptive, and this is how the bridge is built. So the doctor takes care of the physical body and how to restore the physical trauma, and then we get into the energetics, uh, the background, the back end of what caused the trauma to happen, and the injury to happen. And this is how we unfold a whole pathway and resolve the the the issue, the problem. Okay.

SPEAKER_00:

So, but do you consult with with um sports team medicine personnel?

SPEAKER_02:

It hasn't happened till today, but I have very often been consulting with um doctors that were treating cancer patients. I was also treating.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. I I I'm losing several people in my life currently to cancer, and it's just it's absolutely you know we that's not like an old old white American guy here. We can put a man on the moon, but we can't cure cancer, right?

SPEAKER_02:

It's frustrating, it is, and it's also so difficult to cure it because it's so diverse. It is no body is the same, no human is the same, and this is uh where our Western medicine is failing. They see people as same, like you have a body, everybody functions the same way. So we can treat you, we can heal you using the same medicine, only it's not working, and they are still trying what's not working. I I I don't know why they're still doing it, but or it works on this person, doesn't work on that person, yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh wow. Um okay, so back to my question list. I'm gonna have to cut that out. Um, how do you blend? Oh, wait, I already asked that one. What kind of personalized healing experiences and coaching do you offer? I think we've kind of touched on this already. And how do these sessions empower individuals on their unique journeys?

SPEAKER_02:

Um I offer one-on-one and group framework. And now we are crafting our membership also to bring a community of kindred spirits together. So in group settings, we uh go deep into collective issues, the ones that are deeply engraved in our bodies, in our nervous system, in our subconscious, and then on one-on-one sessions, uh, we treat our personal trauma, our personal issues, things that are not pleasant in our lives.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay. Um now when you talk about the group sessions, and you mentioned you treat things that are so you have a group of people that all have the same issue. Is that is that what you're saying?

SPEAKER_02:

Not really. Uh mostly I deliver a healing workshop or session uh for a certain topic, which is collective and pretty much catches and includes everyone.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay, all right, all right. Now then, can you share a story or an example of how someone has experienced transformation through seeds of bliss?

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, I have many stories. Tell them all, we got time.

SPEAKER_00:

No, I won't put you on the spot like that.

SPEAKER_02:

Okay, so one of the most profound is a woman that was getting pregnant and then she had a miscarriage every time.

SPEAKER_00:

Every time?

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, she had come through seven miscarriages. Oh my goodness, six, seven, something like that. And when she came to me, she was pregnant again, and things started feeling and seeming like it will be another miscarriage. And we worked so hard until the baby was delivered, and she had a nice experience in her pregnancy because she was she was feeling supported and safe this time. Um, and she also had a natural childbirth, which her doctor never believed she could do.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh wow. And that's because of the work that you did? I don't know that I would understand it, but I'd be very interested to s to hear what you did to help her.

SPEAKER_02:

Um it's a long story. Imagine seven months, oh boy, two sessions per week to clear all the things that are imprinted in her system, both collectively and through her lineage and things that she had never realized she was caring about motherhood, about what being a mom would mean for her freedom and her lifestyle.

SPEAKER_00:

So a lot of the issues that she was having with having um miscarriages, what I'm hearing is that they were based on anxiety about the whole path, the whole journey of both becoming a mother and then be being a mother.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. And you know, many women, although it is supposed to be something happy and pleasant, feel like they are terminally convicted to tie their lives to someone else. And this is very deep inside, and it is very difficult for women to speak for that, they do not even realize that because they feel guilty the moment they articulate that. You see the shame coming out, yeah, but there's nothing to be ashamed of, it's okay. Nothing is only happy or only sad, everything has so many aspects and so many feelings entangled, and this is what we we craft balance, the bridge, for everything to flow and take its rightful place without creating distortions and issues inside the body or our emotions or in our our everyday life.

SPEAKER_00:

Wow, that's so powerful. I mean, the the yeah, I'm still I'm gonna take a minute with that, but we'll go on because the show must go on. Um, how does seeds of bliss foster community connection and collective healing beyond the individual series?

SPEAKER_02:

I think we touched on that a second ago, but if we could go more into that, we are at a phase uh in which we are building a global community uh for people who want to to find the village, find their tribe, for the people that feel like they don't fit anywhere anywhere else. They are tired of boxes and rules.

SPEAKER_00:

Right.

SPEAKER_02:

So there's a space for everyone who wants to contribute in a meaningful way and cast uh um a nice mark, a happy mark, a mark of joy in this world, in this lifetime.

SPEAKER_00:

I and I I I I could see that. I think all of us wander around and we think that we're the only ones that think a certain way, and we we just wander around that way feeling lonely or isolated or unsupported, and and you're finding those people and bringing them together.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. Always find ass and camp together.

SPEAKER_00:

It's hard to ask, though, if you think you're the only one that thinks some a certain way, you know, you're like, I'm not gonna ask because people will laugh or ridicule or mock or what have you. Why do you think that way?

SPEAKER_02:

Exactly, and it's a very harsh feeling because you're constantly feeling lonely. You cannot talk about what's uh inside your heart, what sparks joy in you, and that's a pity, because this is why we're here for.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, yeah. So, okay, now let's talk about natural rhythms and seasons of the soul, and why is that so important to the healing journey that you guide.

SPEAKER_02:

Okay, uh this is very interesting uh because what we found out uh down the road, of course, it wasn't revealed from the beginning, um, is like humans believe they are something separate than nature.

SPEAKER_00:

But they are one more time, please.

SPEAKER_02:

Humans believe that they are separate from nature. Oh, yes, but that's not the deal. Actually, we are nature, we are part of it, and as nature, so we have seasons. And in the West, we have this distortion about linear productivity: like you have to work all the time, be productive all the time, make money all the time, do something all the time. You have no right to stop, slow down, and rest. And this is part of the productive process, you cannot constantly produce things, do things if you're not well rested. So these are the seasons of our body, of our souls. We have seasons we have actually different needs during each season. For instance, I find myself wanting more sleep during the winter because it's uh it's dark for longer hours, but in the summer I need less sleep.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, I see. Huh, interesting. Yeah, um seasons definitely play a role in mental health, don't they? And that's not at all what you were talking about. I just thought of it.

SPEAKER_02:

And they play a role, yes, especially when we we are not um willing to follow them. Because if your body craves rest and you're pushing through, then everything will collapse. It will come a day that everything will collapse, you will get burned out, yes, and also we have our inner seasons, for instance, uh when we are in an intense period of grief, we are not productive because this is not the time to be productive. We have to to feel that grief, let it flow, feel them and the uncomfortable emotions and feelings, and let them complete the cycle, and then we get back to being productive, being um fully functional, we are allowed to to stop, to pause.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. I know I and I partially blame and and I don't know if it's western culture per se, um but this notion that when somebody close to us passes away and and we're in the grieving process, and then there's usually like I I know somebody whose mother just passed away not too long ago, and they got ten days of bereavement leave, if you will. Like you need to finish up this grieving in ten days and be back to work, and that really isn't respecting anything, right?

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, exactly. It's not the timeline, like your grief should be uh dealt with in ten days. Who can say that? Who can determine that? Your grief or whatever, you being tired, you being fed up with what is happening in your work environment.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, for sure. Okay, what role do you see Seeds of Bliss playing in the broader global movement toward conscious living and soulful leadership? I mean, I think you guys are already a leader in that field, but what role do you see Seeds of Bliss playing there?

SPEAKER_02:

Um we believe that each individual is actually self-led. And this is what we are trying to let's say train people to do. Uh get their power back, be self-sovereign, um, decide what's best for them, and also keep an eye uh on what's best for the collective, because if something is really good for me, then it will be really good for the collective. But if it's not good for the collective, it's not good for me. Even if I think it's a good option, it's not good on the long term.

SPEAKER_00:

Fair enough. Fair enough. And if any of our listeners uh wanted to become a part of your community or start their own journey with Seeds of Bliss, how could they do that?

SPEAKER_02:

Um, they could find us on social media. Uh, we are running a free Facebook community, free Facebook group.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh.

SPEAKER_02:

And we also have uh this membership starting uh on January.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, nice.

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So

SPEAKER_00:

And that's in just like a week or so from the end from this episode.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Life is always interesting and and how it unfolds. How things are falling into place the strangest ways. Uh hope you can find us and DM social media.

SPEAKER_00:

So Facebook, Instagram, um, any other social media platforms?

SPEAKER_02:

Yes, TikTok also, but uh mostly people connect with us through Facebook and Instagram.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay. Perfect. Annie Ansa, thank you so much for your time today. I really, really appreciate it. This is such an interesting topic. And and you guys are doing so much good work. I really I really appreciate it and encourage you to keep going.

SPEAKER_02:

Thank you for your kind words. And we will keep going because uh there's no other way to to function in this lifetime.

SPEAKER_00:

You have to go on.

SPEAKER_02:

Exactly.

SPEAKER_00:

Perfect. Thank you so much, and we will talk again soon.

SPEAKER_02:

See you soon. Thank you for today.

SPEAKER_01:

We speak.

SPEAKER_00:

It's kindness. We are releasing human. Thank you so much for listening to this episode of the Kindness Matters Podcast with my guest, Annie Emza. Ah, I hope this episode left you feeling a little easier, a little more hopeful about the state of the world we all share. If you enjoyed this episode, please feel free to tell your friends, families, and co-workers about us. Also, don't forget to subscribe to our newsletter for more uplifting content. Hit screen, and there's a link to sign up in the show notes. You've been listening to Kindness Matters Podcast, I'm your host, Mike Raffa. We will be back again next week with a brand new episode, and we will be honored if you would join us again. Until then, remember, kindness matters, and so do you.