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How Much Of Your Thinking Is Really Yours?

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What if kindness wasn’t a mood but a method? We sit down with leadership coach and former educator Matthew Reynolds to explore how a daily equity lens can turn compassion into measurable change at work, in classrooms, and across communities. Matthew shares the origin story behind Crafting Your Equity Lens—born from years of watching metrics eclipse humanity—and why co-creating norms, inviting play, and centering dignity can transform culture faster than any slogan.

We dig into the core question, “How much of my thinking is my thinking?” and unpack how culture, trauma, and hierarchy script our choices until we rewrite them with intention. Matthew, through his consulting group MRRConsulting maps a clear path from introspection to action: a scaffolded workshop, accountability pods, 90‑day challenges, and a living equity lens you read daily and revise as you grow. He offers a powerful advocacy example—creative, nonviolent, and consent-aware—that shows how to disrupt harm while honoring everyone’s dignity.

Along the way, we challenge performative protest, contrast rugged individualism with belonging, and outline concrete steps to start today: define your terms, map your influences, pick one behavior to disrupt, and one practice to divest from. You’ll leave with tools to build psychological safety, strengthen teams, and design community action that is authentic, effective, and humanizing. If you’re ready to move past good intentions and build a kinder culture on purpose, this conversation will meet you where you are and invite you forward.

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SPEAKER_01:

Welcome to the Kindness Matters podcast. Celebrates the powerful truth. The kindness can change the world. Every week I aim to final eight out people and organizations making a positive difference to their communities. Proving that comparison, empathy, and connections to pride. This podcast is about the good stories. It's about free. Through heartfelt conversations, inspiring acts, the first story, of humanity, kindness matters podcasts, fight for us, to rediscover the power of kindness as a force for evil, growth, and genuine connection. If the message of this show resonates with you, please share it with your friends and family. Because when it comes to kindness, the ripple effect is limitless. Hey, hello, and welcome everybody to the Kindness Matters Podcast. I am your host, Mike Rathbun. I am so, so incredibly grateful that you are choosing to spend 30 minutes with me and my guest today. It makes me feel good. And um and I appreciate it and I am grateful for it. Remember that if you like the show, go ahead and leave a review somewhere and uh or subscribe on our uh YouTube page. It uh it again still be appreciated. Um but I I have just a fantastic show for you guys today. Uh my guest today is Matthew Reynolds. He's a seasoned leadership coach and an organizational consultant dedicated to empowering individuals and teams to achieve meaningful results with a robust background that includes founding MRR Consulting. I'm gonna have to ask you about that one in a second. Mark leverages his expertise in strategic planning, executive coaching, and workshop facilitation to help leaders navigate change and drive positive impact. Mark's passion for growth, collaboration, and service shines through in all he does, making him an ideal guest for the Kindness Matters podcast. Welcome to the show, Matthew. So is that Mr. R Consulting or is it MRR Consulting? It's MR. It could go either way.

SPEAKER_00:

It's Matthew Ray Reynolds, and so actually me and the team have been talking lately, and we wanted to truncate it to MRC. So just MRC, Matthew Reynolds Consulting, but then we thought, oh, it'll just be one of those things where there's some initials, people won't really know what they are. It'll just be our name.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, right?

SPEAKER_00:

Yes.

SPEAKER_01:

Um so talk to me now. You part of your part of your consulting program, what all I mean, that that intro didn't really explain it very well. What what does Mr. R consulting do? What do you consult on? What do you do?

SPEAKER_00:

Well, if we get down to the brass tacks of it, I'd spent about um 15 years in the classroom with my work um while I was getting my master's in teaching. Um and that time I really started to realize that there was a sense of humanity that was missing. There's a lot of metrics, a lot of numbers, your attendance, your engagement, your scores on tests, etc., etc. And the more and more I heard people talking about it, the more and more, in my judgment, it seemed that they weren't seeing the human being behind those metrics and behind those numbers. And so then I really started looking at that in other aspects of my life and in other aspects of my world. I'm a multimedia performance artist, so I've spent a lot of time on stage. I'm a dancer as well. Um, and so I've I've done a lot of work in theaters. Um, I've also marched drum core. And so when I look at these, these, these um ways of presenting story and putting story out there through music, through dance and movement, through um language and what was spoken, it really seemed to be missing from the structure of the school. Um and and that's not to, I'm not um, let's see, I'm not poo-pooing anyone with that statement. I think it's just something that as time has passed, more and more um education has become something that just kind of fits into um regurgitating people who are going, you're you're gonna go to college and you're gonna follow this track and you're gonna be good at these things, and that's gonna make America a better place, and it's gonna make us stronger, and it's gonna make us a world leader and and and help us stay in the economy of the of the global economy, etc. etc. And those kinds of things. But it's like, I think we can do that more through, as your title says, kindness matters. I think we can do that more through kindness and loving support and being humanity-led. So that's kind of the for me, that's kind of the base route before I started putting things together.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay. And now you at some point, uh as you founded your consulting group, you created um a set of workshops, and they're called craft your equity lens. Can you talk about that? What what led you to that particular set of workshops?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, that's called cra it's called crafting. So it's it's actionable. So it's it's about making sure that we are that we are actually putting things into motion. It's not the the one and done, right? It's the idea that this is going to be something that we're always going to be working on and working towards. Um, and if we go from the mindset of of having a growth mindset instead of a fixed mindset, I feel that we as human beings, we have so much more that we can expand into than what the current dominant culture says that we are, right? That whole thing that I was saying about, well, here's your career path because you're good at these things. But it's like in my heart, that's not what I'm drawn towards. I'm drawn towards doing these other things, and that's going to give back to humanity more. And so, how do we shift that consciousness from uh an extractive and consuming one to one where we're actually giving to others, like I said, lovingly supporting one another? Like, what does that look like to actually be lovingly supported? And I started looking at some of the other um countries that you know are leading in education, not just in test scores, but how people are in the world, how they're treating each other, treating themselves. And a lot of it, there's so much more play in the early years, right? There's so much more getting it out on the playground, going and exploring in the park or you know, the trees, going to a farm, going to these other places in these other countries. And so I started looking at my classroom and going, wow, where's the play? I know I'm a theater teacher and a dance teacher, but where is that play for all of us? And so that was how I kind of started to activate the crafting your equity lens.

SPEAKER_01:

That's yeah, and and I know they do that especially well in some of the Slavic countries of Finland, Denmark. They they really seem to have found that sweet spot between book work and play, right?

SPEAKER_00:

Yes, yes, and not just play, Mike. I I want to go a little bit further because I think that ties in with um what you're asking of me. So within my class, um I used to have the students, we would take two weeks, some classes would take three at the very beginning of the year, and we would discuss the Pledge of Allegiance, or we would discuss the national anthem, and we would ask and break it apart, what does it mean to you? Why do you think it was written? Do you understand what each of these words are? And just having these rich and and beautiful conversations, and then each student would write their own pledge, right? I did air quotes there. I I just realized it's a podcast.

SPEAKER_01:

It's an audio podcast, but thanks for that. Don't see it now. Don't see it in their head. Maybe this will make a clip and and yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Beautiful. And so that's that's how the students then started to co-create the classroom with me and started to allow their voices to be in there more, allow the trust to be in there more, allow belonging and dignity to be a huge part of the classroom without even without having to go, we're doing this so that we can build belonging, or we're doing this so that you your dignity is seen. It's like, no, it just happened. So, yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

So speaking of that, and maybe your students, can you share a story where someone's equity lens helped them to respond to a challenging situation with empathy and authenticity?

SPEAKER_00:

Oh my goodness.

SPEAKER_01:

That's why I didn't mean to put you on the spot like that. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_00:

No, you're not putting me on the spot in a bad way. There's that is so many. It's hard to choose which one. I have so many. So I'm gonna go to the most recent one. Um, so I've been lately been doing some one-on-one coaching for folks who have crafted their equity lens as well. Um, and one of my new um one-on-one folks, uh, she's in Ohio and she's doing a lot of work for the um unhoused folks. And so what happened is, you know, she has rallied folks to go to the city council meetings to speak at them, to talk, and then all of a sudden the city council meeting meetings turn around and stopped allowing people to speak at them. And yeah, exactly. So she decided, well, I'm when I look at my equity lens, my equity lens is all about action. And so, how do I do this in a way that is going to be actionable, is still gonna be impactful, and is still gonna see other people's humanity and let our humanity be seen. So they made masks, you know, like the ones we've been wearing for COVID and stuff, and put messages on them, you know, simple one or two or three-word messages on a red mask, and went and sat on the and in on the meetings as well, and stood outside, you know, when people came through. And so to me, that was a very empathetic way of doing it. And it was also true to her authenticity, and that's one of the things that crafting your equity lens really does for folks. At the base root of it, I asked the question how much of my thinking is my thinking? So, how much of your thinking is your thinking, right? And so that helps people start to unlearn some of the things that they've been indoctrinated into, possibly, the ways in which they were told that they're supposed to be in the world, how they're supposed to act, how they're supposed to treat themselves and other people, upholding a hierarchical system and a mindset that there's winners and losers, that there's those that are supposed to be superior. And it's like, no, we're all human beings. So if we we take that and break that back down to being in circle with one another, like a lot of indigenous folks do, and uh we do in theater as well, then in that circle, I'm seeing everybody. We're all on an even fitting, and we co-create, and we take responsibility and we hold each other accountable and we in integrity to the things that we say we're going to either achieve, get done, or as as not so simple, I was gonna say as simple, but it's not so simple as living living our authentic life, who we truly are and our authenticity.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, that's yeah, that's amazing. That's perfect. Thank you. So when you okay, so it sounds like the seeds for your current work were kind of planted during your time as a teacher.

SPEAKER_00:

Yes.

SPEAKER_01:

Um is there a way? So did you introduce the building belonging theory to your kids as as it I think you said you did.

SPEAKER_00:

Yes. Yes. So you started with them. Yeah, go ahead. So that's uh that's a Brene Brown um thing. So Brene Brown out of Houston, Texas, um her book. Uh the first one that I read of hers, and I've read everyone since then, is The Gift of Imperfections. And within that, there's chapter four, I believe it is, and it's about fitting in and belong versus belonging. What is what is the difference between the two? And how am I fitting in and let leaving aspects of myself at the door, or I'm not speaking up for myself. I've got, we used to call it the bungee cord buddy who, you know, through our belt loops, we're hooked to each other, and I can't go anywhere without them. And how does that um influence the way that I am in the world, which isn't my authentic self? And so then there was many, many layers that started to come with it that was all about building belonging. And our mission statement that the students and I came up with um was creating community through the arts. And a lot of them were like, for me to have be in community, it isn't just I live in this town or I'm part of 4-H or I'm part of this or I'm part of that. My sense of community means that I belong here and that I don't have to leave aspects of me when I walk into anywhere, the grocery store, um, my church or my synagogue or my mosque or any of those kinds of things, I get to take all of me in there. And that's a new concept for especially the United States culture, I feel.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, for sure. Yeah, we don't we don't think that way. And that's too bad because there are a lot of very successful countries that do think that way and have basically enacted that and and kind of perfected it, really. So when we talk about a personal equity lens, what kind of impact can that have on someone's daily? What does that look like on a daily basis or inside their community?

SPEAKER_00:

Ah, another great question. So the Crafting Your Equity Lens workshop has a front-loading email that I send about we try to get three weeks out because it's about depending on a person, it's got 12 self-paced modules. So there's podcasts, there's articles, there's um a glossary of terms, there's uh excerpts from books, etc., etc., to get people going about what we are about to, what they are about to step into, what we're all about to step into as a cohort, right? Um and then the first day is introspection, the second day is a deeper connection through self-reflection, and then the third day is crafting your equity lens and accountability, and they build on each other. So an education is called scaffolding. If I want a 10-page paper in six to eight weeks from my student, then I gotta build you. We're gonna go to the library, I'm gonna show them how to use the tools in the library, the various things, how to make note cards, how to take notes from these various places, how to annotate that, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, right? So when we are, when I am asking, when MRC is asking folks to start to unlearn and start to like really look in the mirror and ask how much of my thinking is my thinking, it can bring on a lot of discomfort, right? And we're not here to re-traumatize people, we're not here to shame people or guilt people, we're not about any of that. And it's important for people to know that when we learn, we unlearn. And that unlearn sometimes brings on discomfort. And that discomfort sometimes brings up resistance. So it's about getting curious about that resistance, right? For the individual, right? To be able to go, oh, I want to be curious about this. How much of my thinking is my thinking? Is this resistance coming from the authentic me, or is it coming from that indoctrination or the thing that I was told, or that bungee cord buddy from way back in high school, or that situation that occurred? So it starts unearthing a lot of these things. But then at the end, we tell people at the end of the third day that this is the actual beginning, and we give them, we put them into an accountability pod, depending on how large the group is, and then we give them a 90-day challenge. And if we're working with organizations, we come back in at the end of that 90 days. Then we've got programs that'll take you up through two to five years where we're working on your team leads, and those team leads become culture creators. And so it's really important for people to understand that your equity lens is something that is read at the start of every day, at least one time a day, if not multiple times throughout the day. So it's in your journal, it's a picture of it on your phone, and it's gonna mutate, it's gonna change and shift as you grow and learn. And so that's important as well. I'm currently on my 40th equity lens.

SPEAKER_01:

Your 40th what? Sorry. My 40th equity lens. Oh, oh wow. So it just keeps evolving. Yes, most definitely. Yes, yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay, and that feeds that growth mindset.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, sure. Absolutely, it makes sense. Um so when we talk and we've talked about it a little bit here, but I'm not really sure I understand the definition of the phrase, how much of your thinking is your thinking. So you that basically that's you're saying, is this your true authentic self saying that to yourself? Or is this what you've been told you should say to yourself? Is that what kind of in a nutshell?

SPEAKER_00:

No beautiful. Not just even what we say, how we respond, how we react, our nervous system, our vagus nervous system, our anxiety, our stressors, our cortisol levels, um, the way in which we we date or don't date, or or what church or things that we choose to go to or don't choose to go to, you know, and a lot of this is in my book, Biggest, Fullest, Brightest, Shifting the Consciousness of Humanity. Um, but my father was second generation out of slavery. And um, he was from Montgomery, Alabama. My mother was from central Illinois, she was farm stock there. She was Irish, German, and Swedish and some other things in the Isles, um, kind of thing. And so my parents met 10 years before the Loving versus Virginia um Supreme Court decision was made. So it was really dangerous for them to be together. And that's how we ended up in Minnesota. Um, my mother got kicked out of her family for dating my father. We went up there. Um, the us older four were born in Minneapolis. The next two below me were born in Cambridge. We lived out in the country, but it was rough. It was really rough. There was, I was called the in-word almost every single day of school. I got into fights all the way through eighth grade almost every single day at school. Um, there was all kinds of things. And see, that right there, that starts to, especially the younger cognitive brain, starts thinking of itself in a particular way. So I started getting indoctrinated into not being worthy, not feeling that I was worth anything. I took being humble to a negative place, right? And so that's what I'm saying. How much of my thinking is my thinking? This happened, right? And I've been blessed with and fortunate with a whole bunch of top therapists and been able to work my way through things. Um, and that's part of this journey for me as well. But that's kind of the depth that we're going to for some folks here is that when we ask that question, how much of my thinking is my thinking? How much when I example, if I I used to talk to myself in a negative way all the time, oh, that was really stupid. How could you be so dumb? How could you like do that? But it's like, wait a second, that's not my voice. I don't want to, I don't want to say that about me. I don't say that about any of my friends that I love dearly. Why am I saying that about me? I want to love me just as much as I love my friends, right? And so that's when it started, I started pushing on those things and started really looking at that. And and when I got into my classrooms the first couple of years and started seeing students doing similar things to what I did, that's when it really clicked in. And I was like, how do we disrupt and divest from that? What does that look like? And how, you know, and so through some of the lesson plans and things that I had my students doing, building masks of what other people called them or told them or said to them, and then they could destroy it at the end, but they had to write a monologue with it, all these different things started happening and started going. And that's when, like I said, it just started to like churn and it became it became what it is today. And I feel like I'm I'm supposed to be helping educators, students. Um, I've worked with a lot of theaters, uh, professional and semi-professional and community theaters. I've worked with coding companies, I've worked with um uh various companies that do work for those who are neurodivergent and helping them lead live as um independent a life as possible, just like all these places, right? Where the individual who's working there, there might be not just implicit bias, but other things that are coming up or happening with them that keep them from actually helping others to live their authentic life as well.

SPEAKER_01:

Wow. That's incredible. Thank you. So here's a question for you. How do you encourage people to connect their personal growth to collective action for stronger communities?

SPEAKER_00:

Yes, there's a group called Eager, um, European Americans growing, engaging, and reconditioning. Eager. Again, European Americans growing, engaging, and reconditioning. And they have folks throughout the country. Um, there's a handful of them that they got a hold of me and they crafted their equity lens. There's they've got several educators like myself, anti-racism educators, um, etc., etc., that are working with them to really process some of this deep-rooted deep-rooted ideas that aren't theirs, right? And so, how do we begin to create uh uh a society and a community? And I think the biggest one is that co-creation. A lot of us we we get told what our status quo box is supposed to be because of where we grew up, how old we are, what gender we identify with, what church or our synagogue or mosque or whatever, or none of those things that we go to it. We've got all these identifiers that are telling us how I should be thinking and how I should move through the world. And we very rarely take the time to really just sit and ask ourselves, hey, what do you want to do? What do you really want to do? How do you want to be treated? How do you want to treat other people? Do you really want to blow up in traffic and yell and scream at somebody else who's not even in your car and really didn't do anything? Or do you really want to act violently in this way? Do you I mean, I think at the base route, we as human beings, that kindness is a huge part of it. And it's not just it's not just like toxic kindness where I'm being kind because excuse me, because I'm supposed to. It's like, no, I think it's in us to desire to feel that human connection that we have with each other. And to agree. Yes, thank you.

SPEAKER_01:

Um yeah, I you're you're absolutely right. I I think so many of us as human beings are, I think we're we're hardwired to be kind. Or to have I don't know, maybe not. But because you see a lot of people out in the world today who are absolutely not kind, and you could offer them money and they still wouldn't be kind. And I don't I often wonder myself, you know, is that were they kind as kids and then somehow just kind of got off on the wrong track? Um, did something happen to them that they said, kindness never got me anywhere, I'm not gonna be kind anymore. I I I don't know. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, let's look let's quickly look at the Oxford definition of kindness, right? Which is the quality of being, the quality of being friendly, generous, and considerate. The quality of being friendly, generous, and considerate. If we live in a society that is telling us constantly that we have to be number one, that we've got to beat other people out, we have to have that rugged individualism, especially as a male, that I'm the provider for the family, that I'm supposed to have a family, and all these things, none of that invites those things in. None of it invites kindness in. And that's what our culture has become. And that's what keeps feeding our culture. There isn't anything within it that says friendly, generous, and considerate.

SPEAKER_01:

No, you're right. You're right. I can't speak to other countries, but I know this country, you know, that the whole Marlborough man image, right? That started with Barry Goldwater?

unknown:

Right?

SPEAKER_01:

Reagan, one of the two, you could pick. But yeah, that that really drives a lot of politically but also um socially, right? Right, right, right. Um, here's one for you. What advice would you give to someone who wants to make a positive difference but feels overwhelmed by the complexity of equity or social justice work? Because there's a lot there, right? I mean, I I could see getting easily overwhelmed trying to make a positive difference in equity or social justice work.

SPEAKER_00:

So, again, let's break let's break this down, right? Okay. Um, how much of your thinking is your thinking? So, what is your definition of those things? What is your definition of equity? What is your definition? Definition of social justice work. What have you seen? What have you done? How do you how were you treated? Because sometimes people will have come to me with stories of like, well, you know, this thing was happening to this person of color at the grocery store, and I stepped in and I did this and they got mad at me. And I was like, Did you ask them for consent? Did you ask them? Did you say, okay, uh, once they went off on you or did whatever, did you still stay in support? Did you film it? Did you apologize? What what did you do, right? Because more often than not, we're gonna step in it and we're gonna do something that's wrong. Because, as we just said, it's not our culture, right? You stepping in and doing things is not our culture, and then we're seeing it, I think, with a lot of the well, okay, so here we go. Um with the with the No Kings march marches. It's like, I get it. I'm I'm glad that people are out there doing it, so on and so forth. But it's not a protest, it's a march. You're you're not pushing back up against and disrupting anything. You made agreements with your local township, you stayed on the sidewalk, you said it's only gonna be two hours, it's only gonna be, and you're making all this stuff about signs. You're like somebody, we're gonna raffle, we're gonna vote on signs, and the most voted on sign, we collected a thousand dollars, and you're gonna get a thousand dollars after it. And it's like for myself, and I'll just speak for me, as someone who could not make it through the George Floyd video, who sobbed so much, and all of that, that you're out there making these signs and getting a thousand dollars because you have the most quip, the best quipped sign. And don't get me wrong, do what you need to do, but know that this will bring you discomfort, it's part of it. We have been bamboozled into believing that we have a right to comfort and that everything is going to be comfortable all the time. Our ancestors, no matter whatever your background is, when you trace it back, we have had to persevere for many different reasons in our existence as a human being to be able to still be here, to be 8 billion of us on this planet. So, why now does everything have to be so easy? Why does it have to be something that it's like, oh, I need to, I need somebody to recognize that I'm the good guy, that I've done something good. And it's like it's not always going to be that because we don't know somebody else's story. You don't know that I'm actually pissed off about the No Kings thing until I said it just now on your podcast. And so it's like those, it's those kinds of things that allow us to be human, knowing I can give myself grace, I can give others grace, I can allow people to be a human being and not cancel them, but give them an opportunity. I don't need to be, I don't need to invite them over to my house for dinner, but I need, I feel, I need to see their humanity. Even if they're treating me as if I'm not, I'm still gonna see their humanity and I'm gonna go the other way. Or I'm gonna yell a little louder, or I'm going to, you know, write my letters or do my calls, or I'm gonna go stand in the middle of the street, I'm gonna chain myself to something, I'm gonna lay over some something, some tracks or whatever it might be, but I need to disrupt it. It needs to be disrupted and divested from. There's a difference than standing and saying, I don't agree with this. Great. What did you disrupt? Nothing. You didn't disrupt anything, so it's just gonna keep happening, right? Yeah, it's just gonna keep happening. Disrupt and divest. Even if that's just you as an individual, I'm gonna disrupt the way I'm thinking about this person right now, and I'm gonna divest from that way of thinking that is biased or hurtful and harmful, that takes away, that's dehumanizing. I'm gonna divest from that. And then I'm gonna take some time and get curious. I'm not gonna beat myself up, but I'm gonna get curious. Why did I think that? Why was that f why was that the first thought I that came into my mind in that situation? And is that the way that I want to think? How much of my thinking is my thinking?

SPEAKER_01:

It's it's amazing to me how much of everything goes back to that that phrase. How much of my thinking is my thinking? Okay, one last question, if I may. Please. What's one small step that our listeners can take today to begin crafting their own equity lands or promoting belonging in their circles?

SPEAKER_00:

Um, go to my website, mrrconsulting.org. Um there will be a link in the show notes. And sign up for possibly a test. Sign up for my gentle reminders, which come out um every Monday. And then I've got a Patreon page as well that has folks who haven't crafted their equity lens and others who have. Um, Eager is a great organization as well. The fact of the matter is, is I put together a process that helps people dig deep and go through and go through some things. I'm not doing stuff for shock value, but a lot of people use equity lens, right? And they're like, oh, my equity lens and higher ed here in Oregon uses equity lens as well. But when I read through things, I'm like, hmm, that's still upholding some of the dominant culture's ideology. That's still got this hierarchical or capitalistic or some there's other things within there. And so who's holding you accountable to that? And that's what I'm trying to build. And so I have quarterly open groups, virtual open groups of crafting your equity lens. Um, I also go and work with other organizations and things, but let me read my my 40th equity lens to you all, and that way you can kind of be like, oh, that is the 40th, and there's been a lot of thought that went into that. There's a lot of personal work that went into that. So I am crafting a world for my liberated curiosity, sparked creativity, and activated collaboration. I am nurturing the cultivated joy found in my rebellion so that it can build bridges of solidarity. We are moving as a collective to build a world rooted in love, mutual care, cooperative economies, transformative justice and abolition. We are bringing forth from our souls the necessary building materials to lay down a foundation of our shared humanity. As a conscious creator of my life, inspired by the youth of future generations, my dreams are crafting a world.

SPEAKER_01:

Whoa. Wow, that's powerful. And this is not, I mean, you can't just go, okay, well, I'm gonna sit down and take my my cosmopolitan, my cosmo test and be done with it in 10, 15 minutes. This is this is work and I think it's it's probably not a horrible thing for all of us to get in there and do some of that work.

SPEAKER_00:

Agreed. Thank you, Mike, for sharing that.

SPEAKER_01:

I appreciate so much your time today, Matthew. Um for coming on for what you do. And uh thank you, my friend. I wish you the best of luck going forward. All of your links, um I'll get the book again when we when we get off here, but I'll I'll add a link to the book as well.

SPEAKER_00:

And that one's um, please don't use Amazon. There's a link in the store on my website.

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