The Kindness Matters Podcast
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The Kindness Matters Podcast
Unlocking Business Success and Personal Fulfillment with Human Design and NLP
Unlock the secrets of aligning your business success with personal fulfillment by tuning into our latest episode featuring Adina Kroll, an international business and human design coach. Adina introduces us to the fascinating world of human design, a self-discovery tool that blends multiple spiritual modalities to help you understand your unique energetic blueprint. Challenge conventional norms and societal expectations as Adina empowers you to make decisions that lead to a more authentic and fulfilling life.
Ever wondered how your early childhood experiences shape your internal dialogue and behavior? In our deep dive into neuro-linguistic programming (NLP), we examine the profound impact societal norms and gender roles have on our personal development. Learn how reprogramming negative language patterns can foster better self-awareness and behavior, bolstered by the incredible concept of neuroplasticity—the brain's capacity for change.
We wrap up with an inspiring discussion on breaking free from limiting beliefs and redefining success on your own terms. This episode encourages you to understand the root causes of your aspirations and allows you the freedom to pursue a unique vision of success. We also highlight the importance of kindness and the role social media can play in fostering supportive connections. Don't miss this heartfelt conversation that aims to inspire you to embrace your unique path and practice kindness every day.
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Speaker 2:Kindness. We see it all around us. We see it when someone pays for someone else's coffee or holds the door open for another person. We see it in the smallest of gestures, like a smile or a kind word. But it's different when we turn on the news or social media. Oftentimes what we hear about what outlets are pushing is the opposite of kind.
Speaker 2:Welcome to the Kindness Matters Podcast. Our goal is to give you a place to relax, to revel in stories of people who have received or given kindness, a place to inspire and motivate each and every one of us to practice kindness every day. Hello and welcome. You are listening to the Kindness Matters Podcast and my name is Mike Rathbun and I am your host for this show and every show. Really, wow, okay, as you may have noticed at the beginning there, we are a proud member of the Deluxe Edition Network, a collection of the finest podcasts out there in the world, and they have a podcast of the month right now, always every month, and the podcast of the month for September at the Deluxe Edition Network is Berks County Unsolved.
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Speaker 2:And now let's get into that show. Hey guys, welcome to the show. I am so excited. Let me tell you about my guest today. She is an international business plus human design coach, certified NLP practitioner, sales expert, author and speaker for visionary entrepreneurs who want to make more money and reduce stress and overwhelm. She is originally from Germany but now resides near London, uk, where she helps business owners globally scale their service-based businesses to six and seven figures sustainably. She challenges traditional entrepreneurship norms, advocating for business success aligned with personal fulfillment. Aligned with personal fulfillment using human disease. Oh my God, human design, not disease design, nlp and strategic business practices. Welcome to the show Adina Kroll.
Speaker 1:Thank you so much. I read over that thing like five times. It's a script.
Speaker 2:basically I should be able to read a script. Honestly, don't worry about it, it's okay. Oh God, human disease. Yeah, welcome to the show, adina. Thank you so much for being here. I so appreciate your time. So talk to me Now. I'm somewhat new to the term human design coach, or human design. What is that?
Speaker 1:I'm glad you asked. I can talk about it for days.
Speaker 2:I'm going to take a break. You just go on.
Speaker 1:I'll just talk about it. Human design is a modality or a self-discovery tool that essentially uses. That consists of several different spiritual modalities, such as astrologybalah, the I Ching, the chakra system, physics and, in a nutshell, that all sounds a lot more complicated than what it actually is, but, in a nutshell, the best way that I can describe it is it's a tool that helps us understand how we as human beings are designed best designed, uniquely designed to make decisions and know what is correct for us, because we all understand that we all have a very different biological dna. We understand that even identical twins have like the slightest difference yep right.
Speaker 1:What we don't understand as human beings or rather, we understand it but we haven't really accepted it socially yet is that we also have a unique like a unique energetic diet dna, and what that means is that as a society, we love rules and regulations, which I can. Human design has a rule for this, so there's a reason why that's there, but I'm not going to go into that today. But we love we love rules and regulations because we need them to know right, what isn't correct, right. So how do we know what's normal? It's like, okay, whatever majority does something, then that normal.
Speaker 1:The problem is we now live in an era where most of us not the whole world first world countries have the ability and the abundance to go way beyond just surviving. And so we are looking at how do we thrive, what makes us fulfilled as human beings, and what we're learning is that from a very young age that we should trust what appointed authority. Figures say a lot more about our fulfillment than what we believe is to be true. Right, our parents, teachers, bosses, governments, et cetera. It doesn't mean they're wrong, right there is some merit to some expertise.
Speaker 1:But just because something makes logical sense doesn't mean it's the most fulfilling choice for us.
Speaker 2:Hmm Interesting.
Speaker 1:And that's what human design teaches us how do we work. Like how do I or you work as a human being, I, I am someone who might like I might love to be busy, or I might love to be alone. A lot more than that doesn't make you wrong or incorrect for being right butterfly right. So that's kind of like the thing. And how do we navigate this? And there's it's huge high level of what I'm going here. But I'm like, does that make sense when I say that?
Speaker 2:Oh my God, yes, yes, it absolutely does. That's that's now. Did you say this is something that's new, or that we're just discovering, or it's not new.
Speaker 1:It's become a little bit more mainstream in the most recent years. I'm pretty sure it's been developed in the 1970s, but please don't quote me on that. I've never been good at the history of things. I studied this for so long at this point and I still don't know the exact date when it was quote unquote invented. But uh, it's been, it's been around for a while, but with any system because it's it's the only system that I see that shows and teaches how do I know I'm making a correct decision for myself? How do I live according to the most fulfilling and easeful life? For my design is what we would call it, based on my energetics? Um, it took a while to catch on because people are like, well, no, that's not what says and that's like we can't measure fulfillment, we can't measure happiness, because that's an individual thing and because it can't be, like what makes me happy versus what makes you happy, like you can't really study that.
Speaker 1:It's a feeling, right? It's like show me how much you like someone or tell me like how do you measure how much someone likes or loves something? Like it's to say so. It took a while to catch on, but it's become a lot more mainstream in the most recent years wow, that's.
Speaker 2:That's incredible, because, basically okay. So now what you do is you take that human design along with some other um modalities and you coach people to be the best version of themselves.
Speaker 1:Yeah, to reach their highest potential and empower themselves and essentially eradicate the guilt and shame around their own version of success. Because that white picket fence the 2.47 kids and the, the dog and the whatever. Sure that's great for some people, but not for everyone sure?
Speaker 2:no, not everybody desires that or or finds that fulfilling, although I have always wanted to meet that 0.47 kid I know, don't you love statistics when they do that, excuse me. That child is missing a lot. Oh my gosh. Yeah, that's neither here nor there, but it's been around for a while. The average person has 2.47 kids. What's that point? What's that half a percentage point of kids?
Speaker 1:Math. That's the half Math.
Speaker 2:This is why I did not like math, which is a whole other story. So now how? He's all over the place. Ladies and gentlemen, so your coaching is geared toward just entrepreneurs, or no?
Speaker 1:it's mainly geared towards entrepreneurs and business owners for sure doesn't mean it's not helpful for other people, but I'm marketing towards them for the bigger message right Visionary entrepreneurs, people who have a vision and a message to get out in the world to make the world a better place right Right. A kinder place.
Speaker 2:Now I have no facts to back this up, but does it seem like since the end of COVID, since, yeah, that there are more entrepreneurs in the world now, today, than at any other time in our history? I mean again I have no facts to back that up. It's just kind of a feeling I have uh, I think your feeling is probably correct.
Speaker 1:Do I have the facts of the data to back that up? No, would I say. I have seen an increase in self-employment, absolutely, because we're also seeing a reduced rate of like. We're seeing a lot of reduction in employment positions. The games industry, for instance, has been hit hugely by this when you say games and you're talking about video games yeah, video games industry.
Speaker 2:A lot of studios are closing yeah, yeah and and I don't know if the two are connected probably they they are. I would say, people who maybe lost their jobs during COVID said damn it, I'm tired of working for somebody else, I'm going to work for myself. I know I did that, but that was like 2006, so well before COVID.
Speaker 1:But yeah, so really there is quite a market for you out there. Yeah, I mean, there's a market for a lot of things for sure. I mean, I have my mission, where I want to empower more people, because empowered people make empowered choices and empower other people, and we need more of these people to be in leadership positions, and that's why I like targeting entrepreneurs and business owners so that when they do their job let's say I'm working with a therapist, or let's say I'm working with another coach they might not work with business owners, but with people who are in employment. Well, my work then gets spread in ripples, which is that's the whole point.
Speaker 2:That's cool. That's kind of like kindness right that's exactly like kindness and we're done. No, I'm kidding, I'm kidding. So now, how does this work with nlp, neurolinguistic programming correct?
Speaker 1:is that right?
Speaker 2:did I get it yeah I've heard of it.
Speaker 1:I I I took a course for, for life coaching, and they talk about it heavily but I never really understood it so nlp neurolinguistic programming is a modality, a psychological modality based on modern positive psychology that uses a language model to help reprogram and reframe human behavior. So we understand that what we say is 98% subconscious, but also what we say out loud and how we speak to ourselves and how we speak into the world is also how affecting how we behave. So, for instance, if we are and I'm going to go already in a little bit of example territory here- that's fine.
Speaker 2:I work best with examples.
Speaker 1:Fantastic. So if we, for instance, have someone business owner or person in general who keeps saying, oh, I'm so stupid, they're not kind to themselves, let's keep it really in the norm with your podcast, they're not kind to themselves and they're saying like, oh, I'm such an idiot, oh, I'm so stupid Right. I think we can all agree that at one point or another we've been that person or we've seen someone, or we know someone who's done this right one point or another we've been that person or we've seen someone or we know someone who's done this right Self-application.
Speaker 1:Now you might think, oh, it's not a big deal. You might think it's not a big deal to say this, but let's say, for instance, you have someone who tries to get a new position in a job or who tries to get a new relationship and tries to go out in the dating world. God knows, it's hard these days with internet dating.
Speaker 2:I wouldn't want to be out in the dating world I am so, yeah, no desire to be there again.
Speaker 1:Right, so it's harder now than it is because everything's so instant and so accessible and so fast. And then you have someone and again, this is a very high level example and then you have someone who is constantly saying oh, I'm such an idiot for not knowing this and I should know this right. Again you might be like oh well, that person is being self-reflective.
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Speaker 1:Journeys, journeys, not really so. In NLP we teach how our behavior and ergo the results that we see around us, are affected by the language that we're using with ourselves, and you can tell a lot by a person and how they behave based on how they speak, and NLP helps us reprogram this. This is why it's called neuro-linguistic programming. We're changing the language patterns and we're understanding the like. We're looking at the awareness of where this comes from, right, so that we can reshape and reprogram the language people use, because just because you hear what a person says doesn't mean you know their internal dialogue.
Speaker 1:Right, no, true, true, yes most of us are incredibly harsh to ourselves. Most of us are incredibly horrible, even the way that um a single person treats themselves.
Speaker 2:They would never do this to another person right, absolutely, yeah, no I just learned behavior I wonder where that originated childhood because their parents talk to them that way yes and no social models.
Speaker 1:Um, think about how society is helping us grow up right. So we get born into the world, and for the we say that the first seven years are the things where most of your behavior is shaped the most right okay it's a rough figure because your brain is developing.
Speaker 1:You learn it. You're learning speech, right. So the way that you start talking, you start learning speech. Um, you start making sense, you start building memories. So your prefrontal cortex is slowly building, uh, which is the newest part of the brain, the logical part of the brain, right, big system responsible for your memories and for certain parts of your behavior, with your hippocampus right. So you have all of these parts of the brain, that is, that are developing, and the first seven years are like the, the ones where you'd get the most, and in traditional families again, this is why I love human design. For instance, um, let's say a child, um starts walking and then keeps falling down, and the parent and, by the way, this is a very arbitrary example this doesn't mean that based on any person not based on any person.
Speaker 1:It doesn't mean that you did this once, that this is, quote unquote bad, like zero judgment, no shame, no guilt. Okay, but I'm giving an example. But let's say the child starts walking and is prone. And I was that child, by the way, I trip on flat surfaces still Right, so right. And let's say, for instance, every time you then trip your parents just like, oh my God, you're so silly, you're so silly, why'd you keep doing that? Oh, you're so silly silly.
Speaker 1:You're so silly, why do you keep doing that? Oh, you're so clumsy, right? You're so clumsy? Oh, watch out, be better, right? Something like that, or maybe something in the future, is just like if we're taking gender roles, for instance, traditionally women are brought up to be humble, to be self-sacrificing, to always put other people first. Men, traditionally in the sociological, are same coin other side right aggressive right, not aggressive, but leadership, right.
Speaker 1:Right. Assertiveness for a man is leadership. Assertiveness for a woman is being bossy and naggy. That doesn't mean that it's true, but that's often what is taught right, yeah, no, I, I, yeah, I agree a hundred percent and so that's what I mean.
Speaker 1:It starts with childhood, because everyone is using their language pattern, and humans are wonderful creatures because each and every one of us have a unique experience. If you put a hundred people in the room and let them watch the same movie, everyone has the same popcorn, everyone has the same drink, everyone has the same seat size, everyone has the same bloody angle right, yeah, no one would have the same experience of the movie.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's really cool. And so, basically, when we're talking about NLP, we're talking about rewiring our own brains right, absolutely, which I find utterly fascinating. I don't understand it, but I'm fascinated by it. That's awesome. It's a term called neuroplasticity.
Speaker 1:It's really cool.
Speaker 2:Yeah, our brains are amazing things, are they not? Mm-hmm, yeah, so when somebody comes to you and says I want to be successful in whatever it is that I do, walk me through the steps. How do you get started with somebody like that?
Speaker 1:The first thing that we need to understand is what is the actual?
Speaker 2:problem.
Speaker 1:Yes, right, so it's identifying right because, well, I want more success and I'm not as successful, which, to be honest, is a great starting point. If you have the awareness that something isn't quote unquote right for you, great, then you're way ahead of the curve, because a lot of people don't even know that they're unhappy or in a situation that's not ideal for them, right? So a lot of people run their businesses thinking, oh my God, it has to be hard. Money doesn't grow on trees. We're already going into limiting beliefs that I'm getting ahead of myself. So the first thing is we need to identify the problem. How did we get here, right? What does success even look like for you? A lot of people chase success because they've learned that it looks a certain way. Again, 2.4 kits white picket fence.
Speaker 2:Right, this is what success is.
Speaker 1:it fits neatly in this nice little box, right and once you start to allow people this is really a permission piece once you start allowing them to consider their success, this is, this is a big amount of work. Once you start allowing them, that success can look a certain way. I'm so sorry. I hope that didn't come. I was gonna ignore it okay I couldn't because they kept knocking. I'm sorry is that the cat.
Speaker 1:No, it's the postman. So once you start to see that success can look a certain way, we already get into NLP territory, right? Oh, but I thought like I was working towards the white picket fence and the 2.4 kits my entire life, but it's actually not what I want. Now what does that mean about me? So it's really important to start understanding. A lot of people need that permission piece, permission piece because they've worked towards something. I've learned and I, I did this too. I, luckily I've been very, very fortunate to be a little bit rebellious from a very early age on. So when I, when I finished school, I didn't like, I didn't like, I didn't want to study. But that was what was expected of me because parents grew up in the East of Germany. Both of them grew up in the communist part before the GDR.
Speaker 2:Oh boy.
Speaker 1:The wall came down, and so they were just like education, like you don't have to like your job, you just have to make a lot of money. And so, in order to make a lot of money, you have to study.
Speaker 2:Like it has nothing to do with it.
Speaker 1:Right, but the thing is that was their version of success. Their success was make a lot of money, be a lawyer, a doctor, a policewoman, anything along like anything that has authority. And you agree, you have to like it Right. And I was very lucky enough to be like no thanks, I'm not going to go into debt for something that I don't even know if I'm enjoying yet, Um and so, yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 1:Right. But a lot of people that I grew up with, they continued with this because they were under the impression that it had to be this way. And so when I'm working with people again, the identity, the awareness, has to come from the permission piece of. Am I even allowed to say what is successful for me? Because what if my success is living in a hut in the sticks, off grid and growing my own vegetables? Like, what if my success isn't money? But what if I grew up in a family that is money centric, right?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. It's hard to do, it's hard to break away from that.
Speaker 1:It is hard to break away from that and that's probably one of the biggest pieces in the beginning that I take them through when I come, when someone comes to me and says something's not right, I don't like this, I'm not seeing the success that I want. We, something's not right, I don't like this, I'm not seeing the success that I want. We always need to assess what is what is the end goal here. That's the first thing, the actual work, then the steps that I take them through of. Okay, well, how do we get them from A to Z? Well, again, we need to know what we're working towards. It's it, if they don't know where they want to go, what success looks like for them, and many don't, sure, Many don't, right, oh, yeah, absolutely, I totally believe that.
Speaker 2:Right Because what does success look like to you? What would you be doing that you considered yourself a success? I would bet there are tons of people who are hard-pressed to even put that into words.
Speaker 1:You'd be correct. That's exactly the problem, because they've never allowed themselves to express themselves. Because this is when we go into NLP territory, right, with identity, work and belief. Because now we start seeing how our behavior is shaped by the personal narratives, seeing how our behavior is shaped by the personal narratives, the language we use for ourselves, right? So if we then have someone who grew up in a family that was very a personality, right, they were very ambitious. They've, they were just like my kid needs to be doing these things always needs to be busy, right? You cannot all of these things. You need to be the top of class. All of these things always needs to be busy. Right, you cannot write all of these things. You need to be the top of class, all of these things.
Speaker 1:And then, all of a sudden, you've got a person who keeps chasing quote-unquote, being the best. And now you have someone who seeks perfectionism and everything, and unless they're the best at everything, they don't feel they're good enough. And so now start talking with someone about what does success looks like for you? Well, I need to be the best speaker, I need to win an award with these things. Okay, well, what happens if you don't? Well, then I'm not good enough. Okay, well, that's a shit. Sorry, I was swearing.
Speaker 2:No, that's fine, Go for it. That's a shit thing to say, that's a shit existence, right? It's just like unless, unless I get this thing, I am not good enough, right, yeah, I. And so, as I'm hoping that didn't get picked up my dog's out on the deck barking at something and doing what you do. How satisfying is it when somebody comes back? Have you ever had that somebody come back five years later? What have you? And and goes. I'm living my own dream. I'm. How satisfying is that?
Speaker 1:immensely yeah it's what I live for. That's my cocaine, essentially.
Speaker 2:There are worse things, but that's not something like you can go down on the street corner and buy. You have to put in the work for that and that's the coolest thing ever. Also completely off topic, as a history file, I'm now understanding that there are people in this world who never knew that germany was two different countries for the longest time.
Speaker 1:That blows my mind I mean there are a lot of things we don't know about. I don't know how German history gets taught in other countries, but obviously you know, being German, I'm very aware of my history.
Speaker 2:Right, right. Oh yeah, because I, well, my middle child, my youngest child, was born in 94, so it was after reunification. They may never. I don't know if they taught that there were two Germanys. Eh, it's a thing, I don't know. It's kind of like a it's a history thing. I love history.
Speaker 1:Good.
Speaker 2:Those who don't learn from it. Anyway, I don't know who said that this is so fascinating and I so appreciate the experience that you have and what you do. If I was still young and starting out, I would definitely seek you out to help me. I'm beyond help at this point.
Speaker 1:Okay, so may I.
Speaker 2:Oh, please. I just set that up for you.
Speaker 1:You did. Did you notice what you were just doing?
Speaker 2:Yeah, the self deprecating talk.
Speaker 1:I'm beyond help.
Speaker 2:I'm beyond help. I'm too old for help.
Speaker 1:Right, I'm too old for help Now. Would you ever say that to someone else?
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:Right, because, why not? Why wouldn't you say this to someone else?
Speaker 2:Well, because it's not very kind, first of all, and I mean hello, my brand, right.
Speaker 1:That was kind of the point I was trying to make, right. So, why is it that we have to do like? Why do we feel the need to do this? I'm obviously not going to NLP you right now, but I wanted to point it out. Oh, thank God. But I wanted to point it out because it's this exact thing. It's these things that we don't even notice. They're on autopilot. It's just like oh, I'm beyond help, everyone does it. Oh, sure, right, but what if you're not beyond help? What?
Speaker 1:would it look like if you're not beyond help. That's when you drag out.
Speaker 2:the old grandma Moses didn't start painting until she was in her eighties.
Speaker 1:Right. So then I think it just begs really interesting questions, because again, your podcast is themed around these things Like if we want to see a kinder world, it always starts with us.
Speaker 2:Nailed it yes.
Speaker 1:Can we really be kind if we're not kind to ourselves?
Speaker 2:that's a very good question, and I think the answer, of course, is no. We can't be kind if we're not kind to ourselves first. So, folks, take better care of yourselves. Stop telling yourself that you're too old, too young, too fat, too skinny to whatever to really go after your dreams exactly because, like what, do you not deserve fulfillment anymore if you're past a certain age?
Speaker 1:do you not deserve joy anymore if you're? I don't know if if your skin doesn't age the same way as everyone else like what a load of what a load of bullcrap. You're wrong, right like who makes those rules?
Speaker 2:who says society makes those rules and who's society. It's me. There was an old cartoon and there was a quote from it. We have met the enemy and he is us.
Speaker 1:Yeah Too right.
Speaker 2:Was it Pogo? I don't know, I'm going to have to look that up. But anyway, I appreciate so much you coming on to the show, adina, and it has been such an amazing time. Thank you for your gift of wisdom and time and energy and laughter and everything you bring to this show. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1:Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 2:Oh, my goodness, Was Adina Kroll not the most delightful person to talk to? I had so much fun talking to her. I could probably do an hour show with Adina, but I absolutely love what she's doing, her coaching and her mentoring and her public speaking. It's all just so inspiring and so motivating, and I hope you took something positive from this chat as well. If you want more information on Adina, I will have a link to her website in the podcast. Also, you can follow her on Instagram and LinkedIn for sure. But yeah, just fantastic episode. I absolutely love talking to Adina, but all good things must come to an end, and so it shall be with this particular episode.
Speaker 2:Make sure to look for us on all of your favorite social media outlets. We're on Facebook, instagram, the Tickety Talk, linkedin. We're everywhere and you might be able to find us some other places too. Just start there. Start there and you can find us. And that will do it for this episode of the Kindness Matters podcast. We will be back again next week with another fantastic episode, but in the meantime, be that person who roots for others, tells a stranger that they look amazing and encourages others to believe in themselves and their dreams. You have been listening to the Kindness Matters Podcast. I am your host, mike Rathbun. Have a fantastic week.
