The Kindness Matters Podcast
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The Kindness Matters Podcast
The Power of Small Kindnesses in a Community
When the echoes of generosity ripple through a community, they can create waves of change that uplift the lives of countless individuals. That's the essence of the conversation I had with Tukayote Helianthus, a philanthropist whose journey of giving began with a personal commitment to quit smoking and blossomed into the life-changing Operation Water Drop initiative. His narrative, rooted in the values cultivated during his Boy Scout days, reveals how small habit changes can lead to monumental acts of kindness.
The crux of our dialogue pivots on confronting the stark realities of poverty, the escalating need for food banks, and how the pandemic has heightened these issues to critical levels. But amidst the challenges, there's a silver lining – the remarkable impact of micro-charities and individual acts of kindness. Tukayote's work, included under the umbrella of the Helianthus Foundation, includes the I Carrying Narcan project and Operation Water Drop, exemplifies how each of us can contribute to the robust safety net our communities so desperately need, proving that no action is too small when it comes to helping others.
As we wrap up this heartening episode, a powerful message resonates: be the bolt in the bridge of your community. Each of us has the potential to spark hope and foster connections through simple gestures of kindness. By sharing these stories and encouraging others to act, we amplify the joy of giving and the profound effects it has on both the giver and the receiver. Tune in for a dose of inspiration and perhaps find yourself moved to become an agent of change in your own neighborhood.
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Speaker 2:Kindness, we see it all around us. We see it when someone pays for someone else's coffee or holds the door open for another person. We see it in the smallest of gestures, like a smile or a kind word. But it's different when we turn on the news or social media. Oftentimes what we hear about what outlets are pushing is the opposite of kind. Welcome to the Kindness Matters podcast. Our goal is to give you a place to relax, to revel in stories of people who have received or given kindness, a place to inspire and motivate each and every one of us to practice kindness every day.
Speaker 2:Hey, hello everybody, and welcome to the Kindness Matters podcast. I am your host, mike Rathbun. Make sure to check out the Deluxe Edition Network's podcast of the month. There you'll find, for the month of April, the Drink O'Clock pod, the Quad Pro Quo podcast and the Steven Crypto show. And also I want to remind you to check in the show notes for my partnerships with the Coffee Bros and Sunday Scaries. I have a special code that you can use to get some percentages off of your orders there. Now let's get into the show. Hey, everyone, welcome to the show. I have such an amazing guest on today. This gentleman is. He's been doing nonprofit stuff going all the way back to like 2005, and he has an entire foundation dedicated to nonprofit works. But two of them we're going to talk about today and I won't spoil it, but please welcome to the show. Tukaiyoti Heliantis.
Speaker 1:Did I do it? Yes, thank you. You got it perfect. Thank you, thanks for the introduction.
Speaker 2:This will be an audio-only podcast, and none of that will be seen. My little fist bumps, it's so awesome to have you on. I just, I really admire all of the work that you're doing. Tukaiyoti, so you live in Pacific Northwest up in the Seattle area, right?
Speaker 1:I live about 90 miles north of Seattle. Okay, and the last big town in Washington on the way to Canada called Bellingham.
Speaker 2:Bellingham, Really the last big town on the way to Canada.
Speaker 1:Yep.
Speaker 2:I did not realize that.
Speaker 1:I mean I've heard of Bellingham, I mean I've heard of the Canadian border how far? For about 30 minutes from the Canadian border. Oh, wow, wow, yeah, it's right in our backyard.
Speaker 2:And you have. So what does it take for somebody to? Did you start your foundation? And I should mention, it's the Helianthus Foundation, right, yes, okay, when did you start that foundation?
Speaker 1:I was operating under a different name, which was Tukaiyoti Gives, but I changed the name of it to Helianthus Foundation when I changed my last name to Helianthus. Legally, okay, I've been doing the Tukaiyoti Gives slash Helius Foundation for about two years, two and a half years, I'd say Wow. I just started taking all my efforts and putting them under one entity and representing them that way.
Speaker 2:That makes sense. But I mean because you've been again. Like I mentioned, you've been doing nonprofit type stuff, charity type stuff, going back to like 2005.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But what drives somebody like that? Is it just like an incredibly compassionate sense of being, or you know I've had people ask me the question.
Speaker 1:I think it's a lot of how I was raised. I was in Boy Scouts. We believe in doing a good turn daily and serving others, putting other people before ourselves, sometimes even, and just helping the greater good, and I have found that it doesn't take much time at all or energy to just find something small that you're good at and do it really well and find a way to incorporate that into your lifestyle. And by doing those things you basically take a micro habit, you make it a habit and they make this habit something that's good for the good of humanity, and then it's just part of your life and everyone's benefiting from it as well as you.
Speaker 1:Right, because at the end of the day, if you just give it yourself, and give it yourself, and give it yourself and you don't have any, you don't take anything back for yourself. You know it's exhausting and you get burned out, right.
Speaker 2:For sure, but then when you see what good you're doing, that's how you give back to yourself, right?
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly yeah. And you know, like Operation Water Drop, which I'm sure you want to go into, yes, I know, you know it was started around the same time that I quit smoking and I found, you know, that a pack of cigarettes could buy 120 bottles of water. Wow. So yeah, it's one. One cigarette is. 12 bottles of water is how much cigarettes cost in Washington.
Speaker 2:That's crazy.
Speaker 1:Or one cigarette is sorry, I got that wrong with six bottles of water. Okay, but it's still. It's still expensive.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And so, like I quit smoking and I took that change, change, a little bit of money that I was saving, actually a lot of money that I was saving and put that towards Operation Water Drop, and it keeps me accountable. You know, if I start smoking again, I won't be able to drop water for people who need it and depend on it. So it keeps me accountable, it helps me become stronger because I'm moving all the water you know, upwards of over a ton of water, I move my hand every week, sure, and so it's just a win, win, win for everybody. Yeah.
Speaker 2:And since we're already talking about it, let's talk about Operation Water Drop. Now the the theory behind not the theory that's on what is behind Operation Water Drop is providing clean drinkable water to those people who probably wouldn't have access to it. Is that correct?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I say. I say that you know, the mission is just getting clean drinkable water to those experiencing water poverty, whatever that looks like for them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because water poverty and I assume that those that experience water poverty are primarily the unhoused. Is that correct?
Speaker 1:In this community. That's correct, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because I mean in some places in some municipalities I know they like shut off the water in parks and stuff.
Speaker 1:They sure do. Yep, We've. I've been personally holding the city accountable to keeping water faucets turned on where they can.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and that that's just. I mean, it seems inhumane and I realize that the unhoused population is a huge problem for many cities. I know there's a. I want to say there's a case from Big Bend, oregon, going to the Supreme Court April 22nd. I want to say Okay.
Speaker 2:And basically a group of residents of Big Bend sued the city because the city would not let anybody camp. You can't camp inside the city limits in Big Bend, right? And of course that's mostly what the unhoused are doing. They're putting up tents and what have you, and then they actually find, if they get caught, well, finds for an unhoused. And you have some people in the unhoused population that are working and you know. But these fines are like crazy, like $500.
Speaker 1:Right, right.
Speaker 2:Anyway. So yeah, the unhoused situation for cities is an issue.
Speaker 1:It is, but at what?
Speaker 2:point. Do you, you know, go ahead. I'm sorry, it's a major public health emergency.
Speaker 1:you know, in many, many cities the unhoused crisis, along with the fentanyl crisis that also is really hitting communities hard right now. And I've been targeting the fentanyl crisis in the unhoused community through operational water drop, the fentanyl crisis through Icarian Arcane, which we'll probably go into in a little bit. Yeah, been targeting both of those areas with my outreach and just trying to make a difference. And you know I dropped off two cases of water to an organization this morning and you know they thanked me and thanked me and thanked me because it was it made all the difference to an operation they were doing today. They were running a shower truck up in Blaine and they didn't have any bottle of water to hand out to people who are coming in to take showers.
Speaker 2:Oh, wow.
Speaker 1:So they they had 80 bottles of water delivered to them this morning and then now they're able to pass out water to those folks who just wanted a drink of water, you know, after a nice clean shower, and I think that's amazing. Why is that? I still struggle sometimes to understand why, why bottle of water costs so much money at the store, especially for people who just are scraping by trying to get just clean water. Now that same bottle of water that costs me 10.85 cents costs over $1.25, plus tax, at the store.
Speaker 2:Oh, if you were just to go into a safeway, or a convenience store and buy a bottle of water. Yeah, wow.
Speaker 1:That's a thousand percent markup at least.
Speaker 2:Yeah, for sure. And really, water is life. We cannot live without water.
Speaker 1:That is correct 100% and it's Something I've learned this year, because I started this in July, in the middle of summer, when there was hot and Everyone associates the heat with water and the need for water. What blew my mind is how I've continued to Purchase and distribute 16 cases of water a week nearly all winter long, because the demand for water does not change as the seasons change. There's there is a higher demand in summer, when it's hot, because people have to keep cool, but in the winter, dehydration is just as much of a problem for for the water impoverished as as it is in the summer.
Speaker 2:Absolutely. Yeah, for sure. I mean, and even let's. I mean let's just say, even for Somebody who's not necessarily unhoused but struggles with finding clean water. It's, it's crazy, and I can't, I can't even imagine, and I, how did you land on that one? Well, you know, I look at charities and I'm like, oh, I could donate to some of them, but I'm like, which ones really speak to me? Was there something in particular that that grabbed your attention about the water?
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know, I just I was like one day I was like went to Costco, I was like wonder how cheap water is, because we got this heat wave coming up. I can just buy a couple cases of water, throwing them back in my car and handed out downtown. And so that's what I did. I bought like five or six cases, because it's, you know, $4 and change for a case, and Went downtown. I handed out several cases of water and then I had some extra water left.
Speaker 1:So I reached out to an organization that I know hands out water in the camps and said, hey, do you guys want some water? I'm really, oh, we'll totally take it. So I gave them water and then they were like hey, are you gonna be dropping up water again? I was like you know what? Yes, I know, yeah, I am now. And and that's when it all just came to me and I said I'm gonna just do this, this is gonna be my thing that I can do, and I can do.
Speaker 1:Well, it's small, but as someone told me today that the lady I was dropping off water to, she said what you're doing with the water drop is like the bolts on a bridge. You know, nobody thinks about all the bolts and the nuts, the nuts and bolts on the bridge, but all them, you know, those, those all hold the bridge together and she's like you know, there's a lot of foundation, there's a lot of steel, there's a lot of trusses and arches and all those things on the bridge that are already in place, but you're filling in all these little little holes where the nuts and bolts go with with the water drop, and so now I'm trying to find other small little holes that can be filled when, when someone comes to me and says hey, I want to do something to help. You know, the organization I'm a lot of this water goes out through is called cast, and cast gives out meals four days a week downtown and cast has, like they hand out bananas, they hand out oranges, they hand out Um granola bars and toiletries and other things, and like. We have a potential need right now for a buyer of bananas, and If I can find someone that maybe makes a weekly crypto Costco and is willing to throw down a little bit of their money, get some bananas, then they would have all their bananas supplied, just like they have all their water supplied.
Speaker 2:Wow and bananas are so good for you.
Speaker 1:The potassium and what yeah and bananas are super important in our meal program because they're easy to chew and a lot of the people that we serve Meals to have major dental problems that make chewing difficult. So when, when we think of when people want to donate food directly to us, we ask them to donate things that are soft and easy to easy to chew. Sure, a lot of folks never really think about that, but it is a major, major problem. And in the impoverished community is dental care and amongst all, health care and mental health care Is lacking, but dental health care is a major, a major one. So we we're always trying to be conscious and and Aware and informed of people's dental needs.
Speaker 2:Wow, that's yeah, all these little things that I Know. I never actually thought about the need for water until I found you, thank you, facebook, and Now it's like that's all I can think of. We will be right back with more of my conversation with to Coyote Right after this brief message from another deluxe edition Network podcast.
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Speaker 2:I Was just talking to a Person who's a Executive director of a food bank up here food shelf and the area that I that I live in. I'm in a northern suburb of Minneapolis and nobody really thinks of it as being a poor suburb. For those of you who are gonna be listening this, that was air quotes, but you know she was talking about how her clients I mean the need for food has gone up like 400% since COVID.
Speaker 3:Yes, it's like you know.
Speaker 2:I think a lot of us just don't stop to think about the need that's out there, all around us, every day.
Speaker 1:Right, there is a huge need. The food bank. Demand is through the roof. Cost of food at the grocery store has gone through the roof, as everybody knows. Yeah, the cost of eating out is twice or three times as expensive as what it used to be five, six years ago and so and wages have not kept up. Exactly, and so that's driven more and more people into positions of poverty.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and especially for those people that all of a sudden they're finding themselves needing to use a food shelf. You know, each and every one of us, we're like one major medical bill away from being there Right or, and maybe on the extreme end, being unhoused.
Speaker 1:Right yeah, housing is. Most people they say are within about six weeks to three months of losing housing at the current moment. Most folks are yeah.
Speaker 1:And that's Most people don't have that huge emergency fund saved away that everyone recommends, because they can't. The wages are not keeping up to the cost of living. So savings is a privilege and a lot of folks don't have that privilege. And so, like housing security is so close to my heart and it's such a reality for, I think, everybody. If you really think about it, what happens if your income is lost or there's a natural disaster or whatever happens, a major health problem hits you, you can't work and your bills go through the roof and you're bankrupt from hospital bills? Then what? And usually housing is one of the first things to go.
Speaker 2:Sure, sure, yeah for sure. So what you do is incredibly important and I salute you. I think you're an angel. I don't wanna get a religion Anyway, so you just you saw this need and you said I can help.
Speaker 1:I'm going to help.
Speaker 2:And you talked about time and I think about how much time I waste every single day when I could be doing something useful or to help another, and now I feel bad. Thanks a lot, no.
Speaker 1:I'm kidding.
Speaker 2:So you work with? Are you Operation Water Drop or that's one of the beneficiaries of the foundation?
Speaker 1:That's me. That's one of my microchart. I call it a micro charity.
Speaker 2:That's what I was gonna ask you what defines a micro charity?
Speaker 1:For me, I think doing charitable work that is not in the I mean overall Operation Water Drop will run into the four digits as far as money goes. But really things that are in the three digits and lower I want to eventually, if I can find the way to get the funding for it. I want to do like $25 grant. Okay, so you got a kid that wants to paint the neighborhood library, the neighborhood miniature library, and wants some money 25 bucks help the neighborhood. Or a $50 grant or even a hotel stay for someone who's unhoused, that kind of a micro grant, $100 here Not talking about the big $100,000, million dollar nonprofit type agencies. I'm talking about things that are very small and easy to manage, just for me.
Speaker 2:Sure sure. And you've asked them help, you've had some donors and whatnot, have you? Yeah?
Speaker 1:Yeah, we've got. Don't get as much donations as I hope to be, but that's a trend amongst many of the nonprofits. I've gotten several donations for the I Carrying Arcam project that have covered all but about 100 of the 1000 buttons we've handed out so far. Yeah, so that one's been pretty popular.
Speaker 2:Well, as long as we're there, let's go ahead and talk about I Carrying. Arcam Narcan boy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the lock zone is the generic name. But yeah, I Carrying.
Speaker 2:Arcam For those of us from people listening who don't know what does Narcan do?
Speaker 1:Narcan. It stops an overdose in progress from opioid substances, so heroin, fentanyl, pain pills, anything that's an opioid or opiate. It can delay the overdose. The key is that it does delay the overdose. It does not reverse an overdose. So if an overdose is happening, it will stop the overdose in progress and it will delay it and then, when it wears off, the overdose will resume if they're not getting the appropriate medical attention.
Speaker 2:Okay, so it gives you time to get into the hospital and to get medical intervention.
Speaker 1:Correct yeah.
Speaker 2:So you decided to. Now are you giving out Narcan in addition to the buttons and the stickers?
Speaker 1:No, I wish Narcan's surprisingly in high demand. Not surprisingly, I should say, that's weird. It is in high demand. It is kind of hard to get. I get Narcan through three or four different sources I've found and I put the sources for that on icaringnarcancom for those in the Washington area. These some of the resources are Washington specific but eventually I hope that I Carrying Narcan could be a national website for people to get this, the basic information what is Narcan, how do I use it, where do I get it?
Speaker 2:Right, yeah, and but then now you've, you've, you're distributing buttons, correct people that says I carry Narcan, so they're, we're easily identifiable when we're self identify.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and Also, you know, brings awareness, because I've had people say what, what is this? What is? I carry Narcan, why are you wearing a button? What, what it was? What is what is Narcan? What's going on, and then believe it. You know, we, we hear it on the news the Fennel epidemic and how, how many people are overdosing on a daily basis and it's almost become noise and it's unfortunate, but there's there's hundreds and hundreds of people every day overdosing on these drugs and it's happening everywhere. It's not just happening in downtown's, it's not happening in alleys and and and other stuff. It's happening in private homes.
Speaker 1:Yeah it's happening at dance clubs people get laced drugs with Fennel and they go. You know they drop like a fly and you know next thing, you know they're overdosing on something that they didn't even know that was in the drugs they were using. So it's, it's. It's happening All over the place. There are reports now of marijuana that's been laced with it. You know that was bought outside of a state distribution system. You know black market and had was laced with it and someone overdosing on it at a party, at a farm in the rural country. There's, it's, it's just, it's just all the time and it's everywhere.
Speaker 1:And I, I personally witnessed that I had a Narcan so on about 30 minutes after New Year's Celebrations had occurred in in Seattle and you know it's like four doses of Narcan to revive the guy and he stood up and walked off and the problem was is he denied medical attention? And, as I mentioned earlier, narcan is essential if you have medical attention following and he walked off and so, unless he walked to somewhere else with more Narcan or he didn't have a lot of drugs in a system which he did because it took four doses he could easily overdose, you know, two hours later and be dead.
Speaker 2:Yes, you don't know what happened to him.
Speaker 1:We don't know what happened to him. Wow, that's, he denied medical treatment when it arrived and walked off.
Speaker 2:I wonder now Now, washington State legalized marijuana a while back, right.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, it's been several years.
Speaker 2:Yeah, okay, Minnesota just did last year and we have not set up a dispensary system. Okay, so I mean, people are still getting it from you know, neighbors. What have you right?
Speaker 2:The old way the old way, the old-fashioned way. Why, when I was a kid, we had to buy it from it. Yeah, but but in, in those places, those Municipalities, those states where marijuana legal marijuana, has not been, a Bill hasn't been passed, sure Is it. Do you think it's a higher risk for something like that, for for finding fentanyl in the weed that's being bought, or do you think, oh, yeah, but if the story of you know the laced marijuana is a hundred percent true and the problem is, is overdose Information.
Speaker 1:It's very hard to get real hard facts on it, as and there's there's a lot of reasoning, there's a lot of reasons to that. People deny treatment, people they find other things in their system or you know they, they find the person Maybe died of a heart attack and so they don't say it's an overdose or something else. Right, there's just the numbers are skewed, but let's let's say all that is true and it isn't marijuana or has been found in marijuana.
Speaker 1:Then yeah, in places where marijuana is not grown and restricted and regulated, like it is in Washington state, you would be at a higher risk of potentially finding Fentanyl in the substances that you use, and that's why I encourage people and I have fentanyl testing strips To give out to people who do use, so that there's harm reduction at the very minimum In that they could test test the substances that they're using or addicted to and make sure they don't have fentanyl in them.
Speaker 2:I've never understood why the people who are producing these drugs will will cut them. Cut it with fentanyl, I Mean, given its history. Yeah you're killing your customers basically.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and you know there's no, there's no shortage of new customers either, and that's. That's a scary thing. I mean, the problem with fentanyl is that there's, there's, it's not regulated. So sometimes there's fentanyl that's really, really powerful, and then sometimes there's fentanyl that's been cut or Whatever and is not very powerful. They lace something with what they think is in a super strong cut and they lace it with too much and someone overdoses because it was the super pure stuff. So it's, it's because the purity is all over the place. You have someone that maybe can do. You know, they have their standard dose, they, they smoke, and they could smoke that same dose and die because they got something that was super potent. And then there's other drugs on the market right now. They're just as scary car fentanyl, which is a horse horse-sized version of a letter.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and then there's a trink.
Speaker 1:Which is a really nasty drug. That's not responding to Narcan. Oh, it does not, and math is also making a comeback. So does meth respond to Narcan?
Speaker 2:No, it does not. Meth is not an opiate or opioids.
Speaker 1:So there's nothing that can be done as someone's overdosing on that, but the overdoses are all over the place. Someone's overdosing on that, but the overdoses are all coming in from fentanyl. Almost all of them are fentanyl related.
Speaker 2:Wow, yeah, it's just you're doing such an amazing thing here and you know, sometimes it's easy for us to take a look at a problem the unhoused, or water or Overdose deaths and go it's just too big, I can't do anything, yeah, as if we have to solve it ourselves. Right, but ten of you in an area Makes a huge difference you yourself make a huge difference and I so you're gonna get.
Speaker 1:My therapist tells me, start small to get big, and I really believe it. Just start something small and it'll, it'll grow and it'll be big. Well, for you know.
Speaker 2:I hope you, I hope you get huge and I hope you go nationwide. I would love To see Haley anthus foundation become a national thing.
Speaker 3:Thank you.
Speaker 2:I Appreciate you taking the time to Coyote to share with me. You're doing amazing work and and I hope, I hope that this podcast inspires somebody and they go. I can do something like that. I can do great, and that's what this is all about and just inspiring.
Speaker 1:Find something small that you can do and yet you do really well, and then just incorporate it into your life. Make it a micro habit. It'll turn into habit, it'll turn into your life and and that's that. You know, the takes me about an hour a week to do the water drop and you have about 154 hours a week To spend and you know a third of that goes to sleep and from a lot of us, a third of it goes to some kind of work or chores. You know, but there's still a third of it left over and that's a lot of hours and it's less than 1% of my time right now is going to water drop and, yeah, it makes that big of a difference.
Speaker 2:It does, it makes a huge difference, awesome, awesome. Thank you so much for coming on with me today to Coyote.
Speaker 3:I love it.
Speaker 2:I love your program and Folks you can look for all of two Coyotes links will have links to the Heliathus Foundation and operation water drop and I carry Narcan and All your social media links if they want to get in touch and great, those will be in the show notes.
Speaker 1:So it was wonderful, thank you.
Speaker 2:Thank you, sir. You, I so enjoyed talking to two coyote Hilianthus and if you don't think that wasn't hard for me to say, think again. It was hard. But he might have a strange name, but the guy is making a positive difference in this world and I hope maybe it'll be a motivation, maybe it'll be an inspiration to some of us you, my, my lovely listeners to go out and find a need and fill it. Be that that bolt that he was talking about in the bridge it's.
Speaker 2:There is no shortage of need in our world right now, and for anybody that wants to go out and start a micro charity, then maybe this is your push, maybe the push this is the push you've been looking for that will do it for this episode of the kindness matters podcast. Thank you so much for listening, taking 30 minutes out of your life to listen to me, and if you want to do an act of kindness, share this podcast with your friends and let's, let's, get all of us thinking about doing something bigger than ourselves. And I will be back next week with another episode, so stay tuned for that. But in the meantime, be that person who roots for others, who tells a stranger that they look amazing and encourages others to believe in themselves and their dreams. You've been listening to the kindness matters podcast. I am your host, mike Rathvin. Have a fantastic week.